zzyzxdop27 minutes ago
A better link to point to the comment from the former employee:
https://forums.plex.tv/t/2026-20-0-beta-ios-and-tvos-4k-dovi...
Plex stopped working on any DoVi/HDR10 videos I have, and today I found this thread.
arprocter12 minutes ago
Seems like the comment was edited to remove "Move over to Jellyfin and/or Infuse"
From /r/plex:
supermanav21 minutes ago
I have a player with wide compatibility, including P7 DoVi, for Apple TV (and iOS) https://apps.apple.com/us/app/hanaplay/id6782382601 works with Plex and Silo - an up an coming media server that could be a replacement. Android/Roku are in beta. It's free and will be open sourced.
cdrnsf7 minutes ago
I've got nothing but good things to say about Jellyfin, Infuse in Apple's ecosystem and Wholphin in Android's.
AdmiralAsshat6 minutes ago
Once upon a time, Plex started as a fork of XBMC/Kodi.
I'm still using Kodi. It still does everything I need it to do, user complaints about "dated UI" be damned.
About the only thing I wish it shipped was a built-in renamer utility to help organize the media to the naming scheme that Kodi expects in order to scrape metadata properly. Most of the leading third-party utilities for this are proprietary subscription apps, which is a huge shame when the core product is FLOSS.
joshstrange13 minutes ago
I don't want to be a jerk and I know engineers writing the code don't always make the decisions but the new Apple TV Player was dog shit. Just horrible. 10 steps back in UI/UX and frustrating to use. I've been using Plex for well over a decade and to throw that all away on that new player... Just damn.
Not sure why Plex laid off the team, was it the response to the new updates (doubt it), was it "AI", are they planning on going in a new direction?
hs8610 minutes ago
I often run the server and the media player app on the same system. When the server analyzes a new movie, the spinning circle animation in the corner of the player app uses more CPU than the server’s transcoding and analysis processes.
dudu2430 minutes ago
Bummer. Anyway, the Nautilus Jellyfin client for the Apple TV rules.
dewey11 minutes ago
Why is it so hard to find screenshots for this app? I've tried many apps the past days as they all are in a half-done state and I would be in the market for a good, Apple TV native client.
cr125rider13 minutes ago
Swiftfin got a huge update recently too!
maxprimes10 minutes ago
Mad thread to drop that bomb in.
PaulHoule38 minutes ago
Well.. I was really excited to experience HDR when I was reading conference proceedings about it in the early 2000s. But when I got to see how it was standardized I could think nothing for "For Christ's Sake, this is going to make sure it never looks right in either SDR or HDR"
Dolby Vision addresses some of the problems of simpler standards but it is such a botch I wouldn't expect it work at all.
bhouston37 minutes ago
How is that related to this story? Are you commenting on the wrong Hacker News post?
wolrah22 minutes ago
The actual thread the post being referenced is in is about Dolby Vision and HDR10 playback on Apple devices, so I can see where a rant might come out I guess...
edit: Yup just saw GP's reply and they clearly have opinions about HDR.
PaulHoule22 minutes ago
Did you read the story?
Plex broke Dolby Vision. Plex is working fine for me because I'm not using this botched format and don't have a TV which is designed to make sure everything is too dark for you to see anything, the same way Chris Nolan poisoned movies by making sure you can never make out what people are saying.
dominotw18 minutes ago
> Chris Nolan poisoned movies by making sure you can never make out what people are saying.
why did he do that?
germinalphrase5 minutes ago
It's mostly that Nolan makes camera and sound decisions based on the theater experience which assumes a certain visual scale, projector dynamic range, surround sound system, and so on. Because the format and equipment utilized in a high end movie theater is significantly more capable than everyday home televisions, these choices often lead to a poor viewing experience at home. All these issues could be resolved technically, but home theater formats are kind of a mess in general.
CamperBob23 minutes ago
Unfortunately that's not it at all. He's widely quoted as considering dialogue to be just another sound effect.
CamperBob214 minutes ago
Nolan doesn't want you to focus on the dialog, he says. He considers dialog to be just another sound effect. He's an overrated bozo who either needs more cocaine, or less.
See also: idiot directors who shake the camera constantly because it's "realistic," neglecting hundreds of millions of years of evolution geared towards stabilizing vision while moving.
vorpalhex27 minutes ago
It's a shame Plex has failed to be functional. The moment a product has a bunch of UI refreshes but no core fixes is when you know the wrong work is being done.
I'd still be happy if Plex could turn things around, but until then Jellyfin seems to be king.
platevoltage29 minutes ago
There are several good alternatives to Plex. Time to give them your support.
iugtmkbdfil83427 minutes ago
Sadly, the signs were all there, but it sucks that we need to start thinking of upending existing setups. That said, currently running jellyfin as a test to replace plex ( different reasons ). So far the experience was good. What seems to be missing is the ease with which you can share your library.
toomuchtodo25 minutes ago
It's a great opportunity to use an open ecosystem that cannot be captured and enshittified. Better to build on a shared, open platform versus paying someone who is trying to squeeze the enterprise for all its worth over time.
Where Jellyfin lacks, I would encourage contributions so that it lacks less, over time. Hopefully, it will eventually surpass Plex, making Plex redundant while Jellyfin remains open.
(i run Plex and Jellyfin side by side on top of a multi PB library)
flumpcakes18 minutes ago
> multi PB library
Of? Ripped Blu-rays?
toomuchtodo5 minutes ago
Library contents are out of scope and irrelevant imho. "You do you." I'm supporting end to end open media storage and playback in this context, regardless of underlying content or media. Legal content, pirated content, adult content, does not matter to me what folks want to store and serve up.
fishtoaster15 minutes ago
Sounds about right. What have you (and/or fellow commenters) had good experiences with?
VCFundedGenYer18 minutes ago
I don't understand why anyone continues to give Plex the time of day. Jellyfin has far and away eclipsed them.
joshstrange5 minutes ago
Do you have external users (outside your network)? My understanding (and the last time I tried) is that Jellyfin lacks in this department quite a bit. That and ubiquitous clients.
Plex client is available almost everywhere and overall, Plex mostly "just works". The latest Apple TV client changes have me hot and there are things I don't love but that's what's kept me in the Plex ecosystem. I am looking around now though since I'm so disappointed with the new clients/UI.
dewey10 minutes ago
Because I bought a lifetime pass a very long time ago, and their apps across all platforms look and work consistently. I only recently switched to Jellyfin because Hetzner blocks Plex, but otherwise I wouldn't have had a big reason to switch.
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zzzeek24 minutes ago
ive got plex and jellyfin running but jellyfin hasn't won me over yet for movies / tv shows. guess it's going to have to
PierceJoy30 minutes ago
The new Apple TV app is terrible. It’s completely redesigned, and visually looks good I suppose, but it’s so buggy and has terrible UX. So terrible, in fact, that after a decade of using plex I finally became a cliche and switched to jellyfin. The player isn’t quite as polished as plex, but it isn’t as buggy, and I’ll probably just take an open source player and have Claude customize it to my liking. Honestly plex deserves to fail at this point. They’ve been doing stupid user hostile shit for years. They finally cross the line though and made the core experience of watching something on their app significantly worse.
joshstrange16 minutes ago
Yeah, I can't believe how bad the UI/UX is for the new Apple TV Plex app. I switched to Plezy as a client (still Plex server) but don't love it either. I really did like the old Plex UI on ATV.
I don't know what I'll do going forward. Jellyfin is rough (I've tried!) and especially for external users (family).
fetus817 minutes ago
I was watching a movie last night with the updated Apple TV app last night and said to myself, it's time, this UX update has pushed me over the edge. Jellyfish migration is happening this weekend.
