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Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS blog.mozilla.org

OptionOfT11 hours ago

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-ads-firefox-ios#w...

> Does ad blocking affect search engine ads? > No. Ads shown on search engine results pages are not blocked.

A lot of the search results on top of Google are there to scam you, providing phone numbers for pass through services that charge $ for it, like flight cancellation:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/1p6h81i/beware_fake_...

So this omission should absolutely be addressed, but they probably cannot because of the Google Search contract...

qingcharles6 hours ago

A neighbor came to ask for help today. He got locked out of his Facebook account and was getting impatient with their AI, so he Googled "facebook support number" clicked on the first link (almost certainly an ad) and called the number. The person on the other end apparently told him they needed access to his bank accounts to verify his identity and you know the rest of the story.

qwerpy10 hours ago

Also they say they will continue to show Firefox’s sponsored links and ads. So, they’ll continue to show first party ads and google’s ads? And likely they won’t be able to keep up with meta’s anti ad blocking. That’s most ads on the internet. No thanks, I’ll stick to ublock origin lite on safari.

thesuitonym9 hours ago

There's no reason to block Firefox's sponsored links because you can just turn those off if you don't want to see them.

cpeterso10 hours ago

Firefox on iOS is blocking third-party ads, not first-party ads.

OptionOfT8 hours ago

Through network blocking? Or removing elements?

dest11 hours ago

If only we could pay for Firefox so they could get rid of that Google funding…

metalliqaz10 hours ago

has any browser ever made that work? Opera has to be the most popular by a mile and even they couldn't keep that business model going

dest9 hours ago

Not in my knowledge. It would be hard to have the same amount of funding as they have now from Google.

yubblegum6 hours ago

What exactly is the problem? I understand a browser is a complex program but is the claim it is impossible to build a browser without continual dependence on advertising toxic dollars?

makeitdouble5 hours ago

> a browser is a complex program

A browser in the class of Firefox or Chrome is for all intents and purposes a full OS constantly exposed to the world.

I understand open source OS development to be sustainable thanks to the the effort put into the server farms. That doesn't work for client side software, with the additional hurdle of needing to be better than the ad funded browser.

johanyc8 hours ago

People just expect browsers to be free. And there's no way that can be more than Google money.

schubidubiduba5 hours ago

That's because browsers should be free. They are infrastructure, just like bridges. And nobody wants a bridge troll sitting on the single bridge crossing the internet river, demanding money from everyone.

pibaker3 hours ago

You pay for bridges with tax. Tax funded browser sounds good in theory, but I don't trust the people managing my tax money to run a tech project like Firefox. Most likely it gets handed to the lowest private sector bidder, with the stipulation that any privacy preserving — sorry, I meant criminal hiding — features be removed.

shric5 hours ago

Bridges are not free

ferngodfather5 hours ago

I mean, bridge tolls are absolutely a thing.

edoceo16 minutes ago

My area has roads w/o bridges that have a toll.

al_borland7 hours ago

Orion (by Kagi) is still new, but seems to be trying.

NoMoreNicksLeft6 hours ago

If only we could open source it and load it onto the phone with Sideloadly.

nottorp6 hours ago

... if only their donation links would let you specify your donation goes to Firefox development and no other mozilla service ...

WD-4214 hours ago

It's been days (weeks?) and I'm still waiting for the option to appear for me. These "experiments" are super annoying when you are on what I'm assuming is the long tail of a rollout but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched.

If there's someone at Mozilla reading this: turn it on already! I want to get off Orion, it's so buggy, but the internet is unusable without an ad blocker.

embedding-shape14 hours ago

> but the marketing/blog posts speak of the feature like it's already launched.

Yeah, seemingly tons of companies do this in a very weird way. Either make the switch 100% once you publish the press release, or wait until you reach 100% then publish. Starting the experiment with gradual rollout and then making the press release immediately seems like asking for potential problems and confusion among users.

Wowfunhappy9 hours ago

But consider what the alternative looks like: People randomly see unexpected options in their apps, go to look for information about them, and don't find anything, or find some random Reddit discussion where no one is sure what's going on.

temp082613 hours ago

I was under the impression that firefox could already use the Safari "content blockers" (as it uses webkit) like Firefox Focus and uBO Lite, but I'm not seeing that option actually. Been using Orion for a while now so not sure if that changed or I'm just misremembering it.

dogmatism3 hours ago

You are correct. I’ve been using firefox focus as Safari content blocker to block ads on ios Firefox for years. Works well

doublepg2314 hours ago

Safari + the Content Blocker Wipr works well for me.

KORraN9 hours ago

Even worse, two weeks back when the first news appeared (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49319633), I had access to the ad blocker for about a week (and turned it on), but after a few days the option disappeared...

urbnspacecowboy8 hours ago

Obvious follow-ups: How does the A/B test choose between A and B, and how can it be manipulated into choosing A instead of B (or vice versa)? It's software, it has to be deterministic at some level.

bookofjoe6 hours ago

"...the internet is unusable without an ad blocker." — for some but not most.

Melatonic13 hours ago

Is it that buggy ? Orion works pretty well for me. Where you have you ran into bugs ?

nxc1812 hours ago

Randomly the new tab page stops working. And when the new tab page stops working, all browsing activity stops working until I restart the app. I think the pages load, but I can’t actually see them because it is hidden by the new tab page.

Also sometimes tabs disappear from the tab picker, which makes tab management confusing.

WD-4213 hours ago

The address bar likes to randomly move off the side of the screen and I have to force restart the app to get it back.

brynjolf3 hours ago

It doesn’t even remember what tabs are open so you can’t reopen them if you close them by accident. Orion is a disaster of an app.

c0_0p_28 minutes ago

As others have mentioned it doesn't stop YouTube ads or search ads. Most likely because Mozilla is still quite dependent on Google for it's income.

Which is why I think we need to be less critical everytime Mozilla tries to make money some other way. They need to become more self sufficient in order to improve Firefox.

NikxDa14 hours ago

I was going to give credit to the direction Mozilla was taking here after their... questionable decisions in the past few year(s).

Only to see that this is neither generally available, nor can you use it without enabling telemetry. I don't know who makes these decisions inside Mozilla, but I just don't get it.

mossTechnician13 hours ago

I think you can use it without enabling telemetry, due to a recent change:

> Previously, access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla. However, as of Firefox version 148, you can opt into receiving remote improvements, even if you have opted out of sharing your telemetry or participating in our experimental studies.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/remote-improvements

embedding-shape13 hours ago

> access to these changes required you to share technical and interraction data (telemetry) with Mozilla

How did that even happen? I sure hope that was a bug and not a product decision, because that sounds very backwards.

nemomarx12 hours ago

I think for their labs / beta features they just require it to get testing data

KennyBlanken12 hours ago

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unsungNovelty2 hours ago

I hate. Absolutely hate that you can't say anything directly anymore without sugarcoating stuff in HN. Downvotes follow. I mean, the hell is HN for then?

Even the most obvious stuff needs to be said like... I don't know... but it looks like Google might be slightly bad here.

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The CEO literally paid her hell a lot of money while she sold MDN to competition. While Rust to competition. While market shared shrinked from 9% (or 7%, forgot the exact number) to where it's now. Citing - NO MONEY!!!

We still have her controlling Mozilla right even though she is not CEO? And apparently we are not supposed to criticise em.

Dylan168072 hours ago

Coming into a thread just because it mentions Firefox to make a generic post about Mozilla being bad gets tiring.

rrr_oh_man12 hours ago

Mr Robot? What?

safeimp12 hours ago

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/15/mozillas-mr-robot-promo-ba...

> If you’re a Firefox user, you may have noticed a weird new extension that suddenly showed up in your browser this week. > The extension is called “Looking Glass 1.0.3” and this is its description: MY REALITY IS JUST DIFFERENT FROM YOURS. Now that sounds ominous. It’s really not, though. It’s a promotional campaign between Firefox and the TV series Mr. Robot that brings an alternate reality game to your browser. This must have sounded like a great idea when somebody pitched it to Mozilla, but the backlash has been fierce.

embedding-shape12 hours ago

Besides the other sources, here's the HN discussion at the time:

"Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser" - 757 points - Dec 15, 2017 - 515 comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15931730

pebble12 hours ago

In 2017 Mozilla silently installed an extension promoting the TV show in everyone's Firefox.

Dylan168075 hours ago

The extension did not do anything unless you put in a secret setting. It wasn't promoting anything.

If this had been a hardcoded easter egg there would have been no real complaints. But showing up as a mystery extension spooked some people, and then misreporting made it spread a lot further than if all the reporting was accurate.

Melatonic2 hours ago

I just rewatched Mr Robot and that actually sounds cool. What was the secret setting ?

Dylan168072 hours ago

Once you get the extension installed, you open up about:config and add a boolean preference "extensions.pug.lookingglass" set to true.

There might have been another way to do it later but we'll never know.

mrguyorama8 hours ago

Well you see Mozilla did one Bad Thing a decade ago and that's a good reason to continue using the Ad Industry's chosen web browser instead; The one that gained most of it's marketshare by taking a page out of the malware industry's books and paying Oracle to include Chrome in the Java installer, among many many others.

You could always tell they didn't mean to install chrome, because these people would also have a malware "Chrome" browser that installed through the exact same pathway.

delis-thumbs-7e10 hours ago

Finally. I turned it on immediatedly. Doesn’t seem to block youtube-ads, so unfortunately I can’t uninstall Brave just yet.

delis-thumbs-7e10 hours ago

I tested and adblockers work on Safari for youtube ads again? Hmm, should I just give in and start using Safari again. Maybe this time it won’t dissappiunt me… Maybe it’s different this time…

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gilrain2 hours ago

Or search engine ads, natch. My eyes rolled out of my head.

Barbing13 hours ago

Better title suggestions?

  Introducing Ad Blocker for Firefox on iOS [Non-GA]

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stan-elyan hour ago

Is it already available in android? Without plugin?

z0mghii4 minutes ago

Why would you ever use this over ublock

overflowy13 hours ago

FYI: Doesn't block YouTube ads.

quaintdev13 hours ago

Google will stop paying them if they tried that.

nkozyra13 hours ago

A weird line to draw since Google still owns the general ad web space.

doikor13 hours ago

It doesn’t cost cost google money to show that content. (It does cost someone else who google would be giving a cut of the ad revenue)

YouTube videos actually have some real world disk space, bandwidth, etc costs just to show so if google doesn’t get to show an ad they lose money instead of an opportunity to make money.

charcircuitan hour ago

AI inference for people's queries is not free.

LeoPanthera13 hours ago

I'm regularly surprised that people are willing to block YouTube ads. I know that Google gets that advertising money too, but you're also blocking revenue that the channel owner would otherwise get. I suppose it might depend what you're watching, but most YouTubers aren't big business, they're just individuals.

YouTube Premium is one of the few subscriptions I am completely happy to pay.

prmoustache39 minutes ago

I guess they just chose the wrong business model if it doesn't work out for them.

barbazoo13 hours ago

It doesn't have to go through Google. Lots of us support the people they follow through patreon et al, I don't need to make the gigacorp even richer than it is. They have enough.

bitpush11 hours ago

Why do these creators use YouTube then? Why cant they host it on s3 and the have you directly compensate? Surely the creator is getting some value from YouTube and YT expects to be compensated for that?

barbazoo10 hours ago

> Surely the creator is getting some value from YouTube and YT expects to be compensated for that?

I'd imagine Google would start charging for videos that don't make enough money or heavily deprioritize them from discovery. That seems like a problem they could solve if they wanted to.

seanyeh12 hours ago

Many people are not aware that for smaller creators, Google forces ads on their videos (without consent) and takes all the revenue

bitpush5 hours ago

Isnt that part of the deal of uploading to YouTube? YouTube promises distribution and in return they show ads to make up for lost {storage,bandwidth} etc.

I'm surprised that YouTube doesnt ask $100 per year and then also show ads. Like App Store (which requires "developer fee" for doing far less)

hn_submit12 hours ago

Without ad blocking YouTube is simply unwatchable / unbearable.

DarmokTanagra12 hours ago

when they stop placing ads arbitrarily in the middle of a sentence or scene Ill stop blocking them

ncr10013 hours ago

Youtube decides the thresholds, the payouts, the promotional algorithms.

izzydata12 hours ago

I inherently disagree with the ad model of business. Intentionally worsening a product with ads to convince people to pay to remove them is just rewarding them for enshitification.

So on that front I'd prefer YouTube go out of business so that something like Nebula can take its place. Or the only videos left at\re the ones doing it as a hobby and not as a job.

peri-cl13 hours ago

> "ads shown in search results will still appear"

Is that for a technical reason or a commercial one?

yapyap13 hours ago

commercial

garrettjoecox13 hours ago

Any reason to use this over uBlock Origin Lite?

Shank9 hours ago

No, uBOL blocks more ads and isn’t affected by Firefox’s insistence to not block Google Ads or their own.

> Sponsored shortcuts and other sponsored content shown by Firefox when you open a new tab are separate from ads on the web pages you visit, so Ad Blocker doesn’t affect them.

temp082613 hours ago

Just mentioned in another comment, but I'm not sure Firefox on iOS can actually use webkit content blockers? (I thought it could but have been using Orion exclusively for a while now)

basedpolymer13 hours ago

UBlock Origin Lite on Safari iOS is still king I guess

wredcoll13 hours ago

Is there an android equivalent?

grahamburger4 hours ago

uBlock Origin has been fully supported on Firefox for Android for a long time.

z0mghii3 minutes ago

Also supported on edge

MYEUHD12 hours ago

uBlock origin on Fennec F-Droid

busymom013 hours ago

Thanks to your comment, I just installed it and set it up. Thanks!

rrgok13 hours ago

Does it do cosmetic block of just DNS block?

basedpolymer12 hours ago

The same as on macOS. Comzmeti. And dns block

nntwozz5 hours ago

I was using ublock origin lite but now I've converted to wblock.

Absolutely amazing, works inside webviews (e.g. netnewswire).

v3 just released.

https://github.com/0xCUB3/wBlock

what4 hours ago

Why would you use Firefox on iOS when it’s just a wrapper around WebKit? I don’t really get it?

z0mghii3 minutes ago

Cross platform sync?

9999gold8 hours ago

It's a shame that the adblocker is limited, though. I've been using Orion as a replacement for Firefox on iOS, which has support for extensions (including uBlock Origin) and better UI/UX in my opinion, but it is not open source.

sapphicsnail8 hours ago

Would someone smarter than me mind explaining why FF on iOS can't use extensions? I know every browser has to use WebKit but I've heard Orion is able to use FF and Chrome extensions.

eikenberry9 hours ago

It doesn't block the inline ads between story and comments on reddit.. my benchmark for browser ad blocking and ublock-origin is one of the few (only?) that does it. This is why I use the Orion browser on iOS.

GeekyBear12 hours ago

This is the sort of user focused feature you add when you take the phrase "user agent" seriously.

lotsofpulp12 hours ago

How is this different than Firefox Focus content blocker on iOS, which came out many years ago?

crsv5 hours ago

This is my question as well.

HexDecOctBin12 hours ago

It’s not clear from the post, are they supporting the Content Blocker API? In other words, can I use Adguard with Firefox now on iOS?

cedws13 hours ago

Can it block YouTube ads? Would be a killer feature.

skarz12 hours ago

For that, there's ProTube[1]. On the surface it behaves like YouTube Premium, under the hood it's just the mobile version of YouTube bundled into an iOS app. I have no idea why ads aren't served, I analyzed the network requests with Fiddler Everywhere and saw nothing nefarious.

[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/protube-block-ads-on-video/id6...

flyingshelf12 hours ago

Why not use YouTube in Safari then? Haven't seen ads in years. Plenty of options to block them already.

skarz12 hours ago

Does YouTube in Safari play in background/with the screen off?

red3692 hours ago

I like "Vinegar - Tube Cleaner" for this.

It's not a perfect solution - I have occasionally noticed it leading to some buggy behaviour in the YouTube/YouTube Music sites using Safari, but nothing anywhere near as bad as using those websites without it!

The only odd behaviour I can call to mind was one time that it continued playing audio when I answered a phone call. It was easy to stop the music playing, and the other person on the call couldn't hear the music. I was actually disappointed that the other person couldn't hear the music, and I've been disappointed every time I've taken a phone call since and the music hasn't continued playing. I wish that was a feature :)

I think Vinegar was well worth the small one-time price, and I like supporting the developer. I've heard that Brave allows playing with the screen off, but I like my setup enough that I don't want to install Brave just for that.

qwerpy10 hours ago

I’m doing it right now. It does pause when you switch away from safari but you swipe down to get the control center and then resume play.

flyingshelf5 hours ago

I use yPlayer for that, plus SponsorBlock

cedws12 hours ago

Holy crap I didn't know such a thing could exist, thank you. It's so responsive too.

Please delete this before anyone sees it :)

overflowy13 hours ago

Nope. Only Browser that can on iOS is Brave.

red3692 hours ago

Safari with the uBlock Origin Lite extension works well for me - even with "Web page Contents and Browsing History" permission set to 'Deny' for all websites.

kioleanu13 hours ago

I don’t have YouTube ads with Safari and AdGuard

__david__12 hours ago

I just tried AdGuard with safari and got YouTube ads. Do you have to configure something special?

kioleanu4 minutes ago

There‘s a checkbox called “Enhanced Protection” (name might vary, I have the app in another language) that specifically says it’s for stuff like YouTube

ssl-310 hours ago

I will check what particular settings I have for AdGuard when I get back home this evening. I don't recall anything particularly hairy but it has been a few years.

ssl-313 hours ago

With Safari and the very first free-to-use extension I picked years ago (AdGuard, IIRC), I don't see any YouTube ads on iOS.

hmokiguess13 hours ago

DuckDuckGo Browser can as well

delduca6 hours ago

Wipr2 ftw

5555510 hours ago

Is there an ad blocker for Chrome on iOS?

finchisko11 hours ago

Why they don't use their rendering engine on ios at least in eu?

bozhark3 hours ago

I know this isn’t feature request yet maybe somewhere knows more about this than I.

Can we get tab management on iOS too please?

ChrisArchitect13 hours ago

tomhow11 hours ago

Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49319633 - Aug 2026 (279 comments)

nonameiguess14 hours ago

Didn't see it even after updating, then read https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/block-ads-firefox-ios:

> This feature is experimental and is being introduced to the Firefox user base through a progressive rollout. It may not yet be available to all users. Additionally, remote improvements must be enabled.

Apparently, you can only block ads if you allow Mozilla telemetry. Thanks, dicks.

tomhow7 hours ago

> Thanks, dicks.

Must we? Such vulgar swipes only weaken your position, making you seem like the bigger jerk. Please observe the guidelines, not because you owe Mozilla anything but because you owe this community and indeed yourself better than this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

ssl-313 hours ago

Apparently, remote improvements became separated from telemetry in Firefox version 148: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/remote-improvements#w_w...

Dylan168075 hours ago

> Thanks, dicks.

As opposed to all the browsers that don't have this feature?

It's not done yet. When it's done it will just be a normal feature with no requirements.

thesuitonym9 hours ago

If Mozilla put even half as much time into working on Firefox as they do tarnishing its reputation, they'd dominate the market.

empyrrhicist13 hours ago

There are some options under the debug menu which look relevant, but I wasn't able to get it to enroll.

yboris9 hours ago

Deeply frustrating - I felt like Mozilla was gaslighting me -- I spent 3 minutes double-checking that even after updating Firefox minutes ago the option is still not visible to me.

Making an announcement when fewer than 40% of your customers will see the feature fees like (unintentional) gaslighting.

drewg12314 hours ago

I HATE it when a company does a staged rollout of something after making a big announcement. If you're going to announce something, then don't stage the rollout. Its off by default after all..

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