acheron4 hours ago
Oh, I saw this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Ralph
thomasfl3 hours ago
The Fresh Prince of Bel...gium.
ninjagoo4 hours ago
So no merit, effort or capability-based gains; instead a straight title, prestige, wealth and inheritance gain through DNA, over which no offspring has any control.
tecleandor3 hours ago
He got equal inheritance rights as every person gets from his parents. In this case I see it as "You had a kid, you better take charge of that."
Also:
> But he will not receive a royal allowance, nor will he be expected to take on official duties, and he has no rights to the Belgian throne. Vandenkerckhove could take his father’s family name, Saxe-Coburg, but has indicated he may not choose to.
bombcar14 minutes ago
I mean that's a straight loss of 7 characters, 8 letters if you count it that way. Bad deal!
vl3 hours ago
” But he will not receive a royal allowance, nor will he be expected to take on official duties, and he has no rights to the Belgian throne.”
So it seems nothing will change for him.
guax2 hours ago
I got curious about this but it seems that this is also the case for all his siblings. His bio dad gets it (EUR 300k/y) because of a transitional compromise but the future princes aside from the presumptive heir to the throne will not get it.
Not that they might be any close to being destitute given the estate size.
As for him, I suppose you can sue for backpay child support.
m3kw93 hours ago
he can now borrow against that inheritance
jstanley2 hours ago
You know or you merely speculate?
tyromaniac2 hours ago
The article states he's due for a share of the inheritance, as to if he could get a prodigal son style advance I dont know
afpxan hour ago
Wait, you mean there's a place in the world where people with merit, effort, and capability thrive?
mrtksn11 minutes ago
Sounds like any rich kid ever TBH.
geremiiah42 minutes ago
His ancestors murdered and stole a whole lot for him to gain that priviledge.
green_wheel2 hours ago
Yeah, people leave their things to their children. It's been happening for quite some time now. You should look into it.
ck23 minutes ago
could be worse, there are people all over the world that look startling a lot like Musk including in Africa but he won't do DNA tests
(not making this up, google it)
dgellow31 minutes ago
That’s what royalty is
michaeljx4 hours ago
Like the good nepotistic society we are
zdragnar4 hours ago
I'm struggling to understand what the desirable alternative is here. Children shouldn't be recognized by their patients? Or only lower class parents should have the burden of sharing their income with their children?
tbrownaw3 hours ago
> what the desirable alternative is here
Limits on how much parents can spend other people's resources on their kids. Which goes with civil office being a job rather than a special privilege.
cromkaan hour ago
Expert nobody is spending anything on the new prince?
jackb40403 hours ago
Aristocracies should not exist anywhere on earth in 2026, except in ceremonial form. Their ill-gotten gains should be expropriated into the hands of the state.
It's dishonest of you to argue that they should be treated like normal citizens while they cling desperately to their distinct and superior position. If they want to be treated as normal people all they have to do is renounce their titles.
waterheater2 hours ago
So what's stopping the Belgian people from grabbing torches and pitchforks, marching to the castle, and demanding that this injustice be immediately reconciled?
hyperman1an hour ago
The king is already mostly ceremonial. He seems mainly a stabilization factor for the country when both halves get a bout of separatism once more: He is the ultimate person every major politician talks to when nobody wants to talk to each other. The king does have some extra rights, but not too much, and the alternative seems worse.
King Albert 2 didn't want to become king but nobody else with enough capability was available. So it's not just a fun job.
But yes, the discussion to king or not pops up once in a while, and the general response seems to be we got much bigger problems.
madaxe_again4 hours ago
All children should be gestated in womb-bladders in state hatcheries, and raised to maturity by the state. Knowing or wanting to know your parents should be considered a deviancy, a perversion.
Oh wait that’s Brave New World. Or The Naked Sun, depending on your preferred flavour of SF nightmare.
alberto-m4 hours ago
Or Plato's Republic, if one prefers older books.
waterheater2 hours ago
You might find interesting an old comment of mine speculating about legal rights of a human being born by an artificial womb: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37314083
terabytest3 hours ago
Sounds like the definition of monarchy?
bell-cot4 hours ago
Are you advocating for all children being anonymized and raised in orphanages? Or a 100% inheritance tax? Or just expressing disappointment at your own relative lack of wealthy & famous recent ancestors?
short_sells_poo4 hours ago
100% inheritance tax would be ideal, but it's never going to happen in practice.
afh14 hours ago
Remove the greatest incentive for long term investment, what could go wrong?
analog3141 minutes ago
What are some of our greatest long term investments? I can think of a few: The national parks, university system, Federal Reserve, NIH...
jackb40403 hours ago
"you can't just abolish nepotism, that's tantamount to abolishing capitalism!"
yes
9853246899752214 minutes ago
"People bequeathing their own property is literally nepotism" - Tankies and their idols Stalin, Mao, and Kim Jong Un
omgwtfbyobbq3 hours ago
Depending on what motivations are, separate controlling interest from personal wealth, at least above some reasonable limit.
Obviously easier said than done, but unless the predominant incentive for everyone is just to generate more wealth for themselves/relatives/etc, other existing incentives should be sufficient to invest.
artisinalan hour ago
My father has a wonderful collection of model trains. It’s rather valuable in money. I have been playing with his trains since I was a young boy. Good memories.
Are you telling me that if I can’t afford to pay the state the full value of that train set, the trains will go to a government auction?
Rumple22Stilk31 minutes ago
Yes? Why would you deserve free money?
bombcar11 minutes ago
So if his father gives him the trains before death, it's fine, but at or after is not? Fun times ahead!
Also the value of model trains and the selling price are highly different numbers.
9853246899752218 minutes ago
You should be expropriated. Why would you deserve property?
skrebbel4 hours ago
Wealth gain? How?
Retric3 hours ago
Inheritance, or more quickly the ability to borrow against that inheritance.
zuzululu3 hours ago
If you view this life as a simulation and that this is the only possible one you will inhibit, it all looks absurd for the very thing you mentioned, the snapshot of it alone suggests chaos stochastic properties with seemingly no order but this isn't your fault as much of Western perspective has judeo-christian roots reject the Eastern philosophy that have preceded it for several milllenias thus I'd argue would be more grounded and accurate seeing that geographically isolated and separated cultures who have never come into contact with other have discovered the same conclusions.
The new wave movement in the West frame it as a simulation hypothesis perspective, your DNA is the passport through many simulations you've experienced and it carries the merit, effort and capabilities gained over time.
We just call it Buddhism outside san francisco.
grubbs4 hours ago
Damn! All those Hallmark movies just became documentaries!
hmokiguess4 hours ago
So he knew when he turned 16 but only got recognized 10 years later. I hope when he was a teenager he got into some friendly brawl and said "Shut up my Dad is the King." and got laughed on and now the other person is seeing the news.
layman513 hours ago
But it’s funny because this is a common childhood fantasy. Like maybe as a five year old, you get into a conflict with your parents and you imagine that your dad is actually not really your dad, but is actually some other outstanding member of the community. There was a similar plot point in the Joker (2019) movie too.
trollbridge3 hours ago
Or the plot to The Princess Diaries. Like, every adolescent in a certain era experienced that.
artisinalan hour ago
Prince Laurent is likely very happy that his son is a completely normal guy. Illegitimate children of royalty typically end up a bit eccentric.
xz18r4 hours ago
I'm Belgian, this has been public knowledge since the guy was born. At least it was dealt with a lot more amicably than the other case (Delphine Boël being the child of King (then Prince) Albert II), which was decades of bad lying and denial.
NDlurker3 hours ago
Saxe-Coburg? Are these guys cousins to the British royal family? Time to do some googling
hyperman1an hour ago
It's German, not British. When Belgium was founded, the fear was it would immediately try to join France. So when a French noble was offered the throne, he actually said no, quite a blemish for the young nation. A surplus German noble was crowned, which was palatable to the English as it balanced things out a bit.
kabes3 hours ago
Aren't all EU royalty related somehow?
mschild3 hours ago
johnbarron4 hours ago
I love Hereditary Dentists....
shevy-java2 hours ago
Finally those emails from Nigeria were right after all!
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throw21x3 hours ago
weird people are still treating some like kings/gods in this day and age
AnimalMuppeta minute ago
Well, you know, some actually are kings in this day and age.
stephbook4 hours ago
> “If I were to sacrifice [my] family name, it would be a betrayal of everything my mother has done for me.”
Only a man could entertain this thought.
TacticalCoder2 hours ago
As TFA pointed out, it's not the first time in the belgian royal family (which has no power btw and they're not anywhere near as rich as, say, the royal british family). A few years ago it was revealed that Delphine Boel was the daughter of the then belgian king.
And contrarily to his son, prince Laurent, who's been classy and accepted immediately the DNA test, the king refused and went to court but lost his case and had to submit to a DNA test. He later on abdicated IIRC.
It's interesting to think of the number of kids from kings and princes that, through the ages, never got recognized because DNA tests didn't exist and they could just deny it, even if the offspring was a near identical copy (in the case of the son of prince Laurent: he looks just like his father).
But yup in Belgium we've got a monarchy and king/queen/princes/princesses (princes and princesses either from the royal family or not), counts/countesses, dukes, many barons, a lot of knights and some esquires (I think we have esquires). And even more "Madame/Monsieur": people from the nobility but without any title.
The title appears on the identity card but that's basically it: it's more of an historical thing than anything else really.
Several of my friends hold such titles: it is not uncommon and it brings you exactly jack fucking shit advantage in life (unless you're really from the royal family).
dlcarrieran hour ago
It's not just Belgium, Practically every major monarchy has had some kind of controversy that could have easily been resolved through DNA testing, if it existed at the time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretender
hrdwdmrbl4 hours ago
I'm king of the world. DM me if you want a title.
dgellow29 minutes ago
Sent you a DM
johnbarron4 hours ago
I am also Sovereign. Will do it for half the price this one is asking for.
hmokiguess4 hours ago
which world though