xmprt10 days ago
Not much to see here. Crowd sourced, vibe coded app. Not sure what "verified" means because the only verification they did was require a checkbox that "I confirm this is a genuine experience"
unsnap_biceps10 days ago
> Others confirm the pattern When reports cluster around one office or officer, the algorithm flags a verified pattern automatically
It just requires enough others to say the same thing for it to be verified.
neverenderrop10 days ago
Fair catch, clustering does get flagged automatically, but that just means "multiple people reported it," not "confirmed true." Same issue: "verified" oversells it either way.
neverenderrop10 days ago
Fair on "verified" - it's really "manually reviewed" (duplicate/outlier checks), not independently verified. Should probably fix that word on the site.
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4d4m9 days ago
Do you genuinely think unaffected parties are poisoning the well here? Most likely those asked to pay are reporting.
superfrank10 days ago
> Not sure what "verified" means
If you want your post verified, that'll cost you $100
neverenderrop10 days ago
Ha, fair dig. For the record, it's optional and has nothing to do with what gets published, but I get why the timing makes it look that way.
2Gkashmiri10 days ago
I'm a lawyer. I deal with government officials on behalf of clients.
I will give a different context of it.
Many people "do actually" commit tax fraud. It's just real.
Then you have people who don't do "compliance" and government officials see this as potential cash cow.
Then you have third category of "clients". These people just are unlucky. The officer "wants" to get a certain sum of money as bribes so they are indiscriminate in who they target. Any fully compliant client "has to" pay to avoid "further complications" and they quietly pay because they don't want hassles.
This website was built by end users who see "oh why do I have to pay a bribe" when most likely they have committed tax fraud and just want to be quiet about it.
Example.
People calling fake deductions in their income tax returns or giving fake donations and claiming deductions. People often say "oh I didn't know" but it'd actually tax fraud so why not face full music of the law if you do it?
duncangh10 days ago
If I were a corrupt official in one of the departments I would simply use a vpn and submit a bunch of data for my specific specialty all across the country and then slightly fewer in my own department to drive demand and set market expectations
winstonlee10 days ago
Counterpoint: if they have that much tech expertise and competency managing things they would have left and make more money doing more productive things :)
SlightlyLeftPad10 days ago
Counter to that, they could bribe someone else to do it for them.
neverenderrop10 days ago
Agreed.
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gryfft10 days ago
In India*
neverenderrop10 days ago
My bad.
aussieguy123410 days ago
A lot of people in western countries are unaware of how bad corruption is in the developing world.
It's not uncommon for something like 80% of government officials of all types to be corrupt, compared to under 5-10% in the west.
Go to one of these countries and you'll see it for yourself first hand if you ever deal with the government in any capacity.
You may start to see the same thing in the west with idelologues such as Trump, who care more about loyalty and power than corruption. He has already removed a lot of checks and balances in the system.
hudsonjr8 days ago
A lot of western people start operating in emerging markets to save on labor costs but then get crabby when there is a ton of bureaucracy and it's much harder to operate in compared to the US and EU.
Then they will have local people in their ear saying "just do this" and "this" is something not legal/ethical.
andrewinardeer10 days ago
What the west calls corruption the east calls tradition.
yieldcrv10 days ago
the west just formalizes the expedited processing fee vis “due process” or a “deferred prosecution agreement”
newsomix9xl9 days ago
Indeed, don't forget book deals, TV specials, speakers fees, offers of deferred employment in the company being regulated, and so on.
aussieguy12347 days ago
"Tea money"
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lmz10 days ago
Could providing a leaderboard drive competition in looking for the highest amount of bribes?
neverenderrop10 days ago
Fair point, hadn't considered that. A leaderboard risks rewarding exaggeration. Would think about this.
newsomix9xl9 days ago
You won...an investigation!
jathul8 days ago
I could see no bribes in my city. Where is this data sourced from? Also its just showing city and department name. Can't find name or photo of person who took the bribe.
sanchitkd7 days ago
Great initiative. But the site is down?! What a shame if the govt. pulled it's leg!!
rice_pretzel499 days ago
Bangalore and Bengaluru appear as different options. You need to standardize the input if you're presenting statistics by city.
junaid001610 days ago
How did you articulate this data? How real is this ?
neverenderrop10 days ago
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bicepjai10 days ago
Love the concept, please spend sometime with UI, gives a sense that the reported numbers are not serious.
zaheenlakhnavi9 days ago
can someone guide me to the developer of this website? i am zaheen from Indian express and i would like to talk to the maker of this app. here's my contact info [email protected]
ankushdograuk9 days ago
I was literally thinking to code this other day. Good work.
snihalani10 days ago
surprisingly accurate. I've seen the average between median and max being the sweet spot (based on 4 datapoints)
neverenderrop10 days ago
Ha, small sample but I'll take it. Curious what departments those 4 were from, if you remember.
prakhar89710 days ago
makes me wonder, why aren't the western government as corrupt?
what's the whole mechanism keeping things functioning?
gremlinunderway8 days ago
It's because Western governments do a much better job of legitimizing their corruption or just doing it "transparently" (which makes it okay, you see?).
Best example is registered lobbying. If you have the money, you absolutely can brazenly bribe politicians and not only is it okay, in the United States its been backed by the highest courts as a form of "expression".
Bribing is okay in the West because its not bribing, its legitimized entirely with weasel words like "lobbying" or "fundraising". As long as you're "transparent" about it then its fine.
orf10 days ago
Relative poverty and enforcement: if a cop accepts a bribe they can lose their job. It’s not worth accepting £20 (or even £2000) bribe and forfeit larger future earnings.
So when bribes do happen it’s for much greater amounts (or nebulous, hard-to-trace things like favours), which rules out bribes for minor infractions.
2Gkashmiri10 days ago
My question is, how do you "prove" this.
We have cases in India where someone was held to not having been commited a crime 30 years after being first caught taking few bucks.
They lost their life, earnings, social status and in the end a judge says "you are free to go" but there is no compensation. https://www.news18.com/india/declared-innocent-after-30-year...
Or this case
https://indian.community/news/delhi-high-court-upholds-convi...
But it doesn't mean corruption isn't caught or people don't care. They do, it's just people get away with a lot of things
newsomix9xl9 days ago
Need San Francisco version.
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DANmode10 days ago
I like how I knew this was targeted at (minimum) the Brazilian or Indian market before getting to the footer.