inktype14 hours ago
RustDesk still does not support encrypted connections when self hosting: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714
SubiculumCode13 hours ago
I think you bring up a fine point. Most applications have encryption built in and transparent to the user. While technical IT people in charge of infrastructure will not make this assumption, it is not unreasonable, at the same time, for small business / individual users, to not understand or know of this limitation.
VNC does not, for example, and you need to set up port forwarding through ssh. X2Go does....but I don't trust it terribly. So, RustDesk..what do you need to wrap it in? ssh?
I really want a better solution that VNC/X2Go..especially since I use hardware accelerated apps that need to use VGL to operate correctly (but underwhich operation is quite buggy).
NewJazz4 hours ago
You could wrap in a wireguard tunnel.
dj0k3r14 hours ago
Tailscale, or any encrypted mesh overlay is perfect for this. Infact I prefer it that way. Rustdesk can do what it does best at its core.
preisschild13 hours ago
I disagree, modern software should make encrypted connections over something like HTTP3 or QUIC directly so true secure end to end connectivity works. This would make VPN software such as tailscale obsolete.
mnahkies10 hours ago
One of my primary use cases for tailscale/VPN is that I can happily run stuff (grafana, gitea, etc) and not have to be panicked about monitoring for CVEs - I serve it all over HTTPS but I don't want to put it on the public internet if I don't need to.
elevation12 hours ago
I'm also in favor of adding encrypted connections to RustDesk, not to replace tailscale, but as a part of this complete breakfast. Tailscale provides mutually authenticated, authorized L3 access. TLS can be configured to provide mutually authenticated L4 access. With a little OIDC/webauthn setup, both L3/L4 support device attestation, meaning there's no way to connect without e.g. a yubikey (or perhaps an enrolled TPM.)
thatfunkymunki13 hours ago
agreed, zero-trust solution with proper endpoint security and PKI is superior to transport encryption and insecure protocols
teekert4 hours ago
Tailscale also protects against login attempts.
jcelerier11 hours ago
so without tailscale or any other intermediary turn service how does my computer behind a NAT connect to another computer behind another NAT
preisschild10 hours ago
Ideally using ipv6 without NAT, but yeah hole punching or quic address discovery like iroh does works too
LoganDark2 hours ago
and how do you discover the ipv6 address? memorize it? many ISPs don't listen to informational documents listing all the problems with random dynamic prefixes.
theultdev10 hours ago
by using something like iroh.
basically an embedded tailscale.
marshray12 hours ago
So I'm supposed to set up PKI before I can open a remote console connection?
Please just make it work seamlessly with my existing SSH credentials. Like SFTP.
kaoD25 minutes ago
You don't need PKI.
Nothing prevents RustDesk from implementing TLS TOFU (see e.g. Gemini Protocol), which offers the same security guarantees as SSH TOFU.
preisschild11 hours ago
You could just make use of public oidc/oauth2 providers like Google/Github/Microsoft/Cloudflare Generic OIDC or heck, even your bluesky account via ATProto oauth
But yeah, you could also make use of your ed25519 ssh public key as client certificate and accept based on fingerprint like ssh
tomjakubowski11 hours ago
Would be nice if they did support that, but on a LAN you can always encrypt at layer 3 with WireGuard.
trueno2 hours ago
their reply in that issue:
"We don’t plan to implement this directly, as it is designed for test initially, we do not recommend using RustDesk with a public IP alone, that's also why direct ip access is turned off by default.
For security and privacy, we strongly advise using it in combination with a VPN—the VPN tunnel already provides end-to-end encryption, so additional encryption within RustDesk is unnecessary in that setup.
That said, we welcome community contributions! Many users express interest or share feedback—but very few take the next step and submit a pull request. If you’re able to help, your PR would be greatly appreciated! "
LoganDark2 hours ago
> That said, we welcome community contributions! Many users express interest or share feedback—but very few take the next step and submit a pull request. If you’re able to help, your PR would be greatly appreciated!
hate this. "we don't want this on principle... but we would accept it if you did it yourself!" just say you don't feel like it! don't act like it's a bad thing except for when somebody else does it for you, that's just dishonest.
trueno2 hours ago
yeah it's definitely confusing messaging i can't imagine being a community contributor there and saying "ok im gonna help implement this thing that they just described as not a good fit for their thing". i think being under resourced or whatever or just not having anyone on the team that would be able to pull this off is a fine thing to be forward about, but it gets confusing because they kinda frame it like it's the wrong thing to do then leave the door open for someone else to do it. if they didn't beat around the bush perhaps they'd have encryption on this already.
LoganDark2 hours ago
I prefer when projects say "we don't have the resources for this but we agree it would be nice" because then I actually feel like it would be worth the PR. but this project makes me feel like they don't want the change which means I don't want to put in the work
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wooben13 hours ago
Your statement is not entirely accurate. This only applies when using Direct IP Access on local networks, which is off by default. Their justification and invitation to PRs is the final comment [1] on the issue you linked. Why are you leaving this information out of your comment?
1 - https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714#issuecommen...
SubiculumCode13 hours ago
It may only apply to Direct IP Access, but isn't that what many would expect (not trusting middleman to be secure?)
innocent_name11 hours ago
Have you tried reading the docs?
>RustDesk is a single open-source application (AGPL) with its own architecture. Clients connect outward to an ID/rendezvous server, which brokers a peer-to-peer or relayed session. Per the RustDesk documentation, traffic is end-to-end encrypted (built on NaCl)
SubiculumCode11 hours ago
Not yet...good to chastise me on this, but in my defense, I am at work, and am just trying to get a sense of this, as I would like to move away from VNC.
preisschild13 hours ago
I still think its an essential feature for self-hosting, but they seem to be open to PRs so what is the problem?
innocent_name11 hours ago
>does not support encrypted connections when self hosting
Factually incorrect. If you self host a relay/coordination server - encryption works as documented.
guiambros5 hours ago
Only if you use a relay server. Direct connections in a local network are not encrypted, and RuskDesk doesn't plan on implementing it [1].
[1] https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/issues/3714#issuecommen...
nextaccountic12 hours ago
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OsrsNeedsf2P9 hours ago
Rustdesk is amazing. I was using it just 2 days ago and ran into this hiccup, so it's a pleasure to see it resolved
throwaway2744814 hours ago
What is rustdesk and how is it distinct from vnc?
Edit: i appreciate the explanations; thank you.
pizza23414 hours ago
VNC and RustDesk are both remote desktop solutions, however, Rustdesk is considerably more performant than the VNC family, because the latter primarily sends framebuffer updates, while the former can use modern video codecs and temporal compression to encode screen changes much more efficiently.
shock13 hours ago
> Rustdesk is considerably more performant than the VNC family
It consumes, on the client, 800%-1200% CPU AND 8%-10% GPU decode on my NVIDIA card. I opened a bug and they transformed it into a discussion, without any response.
diego_moita11 hours ago
I just have one word for you: TightVNC.
That's what made me uninstall RustDesk.
pizza23411 hours ago
I have three words for you: read the docs.
If you're experiencing a bug that pegs you're CPU, fair enough. But RustDesk is video-stream based (in many formats), while TightVNC is image(-region) based. This is actually similar to why you watch movies in, say, H.264 rather than Motion JPEG¹.
¹=similar, not same.
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d3Xt3r7 hours ago
I just have one word for you: Wayland
wltr3 hours ago
Why not TigerVNC?
> TigerVNC was originally based on the (never-released) VNC 4 branch of TightVNC.
It seems to be popular, that’s why I’m asking.
vablings14 hours ago
Well first there was TeamViewer which was VNC with more bells and whistles then it became enshittified. Then anydesk came along and ate up teamviewer then that became enshittified, Now we have rustdesk which seems to hopefully be a bit more immune to being enshittified.
If you already use VNC this is not something for you
mschild13 hours ago
RustDesk is also open source including the server so you can fully self-host.
pyramidless_cle9 hours ago
That's not really true for quite some time now. Both client and the free server depend on a separate submodule that has no LICENSE file whatsoever. Because of that RustDesk is stuck in a limbo somewhere between open source, source-available and closed source. Also, the whole management of the project seems questionable. Also for some features a dll blob which is not open source is required with no source disclosed at all.
9cb14c1ec08 hours ago
That's what BetterDesk is for: https://github.com/UNITRONIX/BetterDesk
d3Xt3r4 hours ago
I like that their server is just a single Go binary, but then they go and ruin that with a Node.js web UI and.. PostgreSQL?! Seems like complete overkill. I wonder what gripping limitations they faced with SQLite that they decided it needed PostgreSQL.
opello4 hours ago
It looks like PostgreSQL is optional and SQLite is the default.
haswell4 hours ago
SQLite is still the default backend. Postgres is optional.
topspin13 hours ago
I've noticed that RealVNC has hidden their formerly free VNC desktop client, now called RealVNC Classic Viewer, behind an enterprise subscription login, and replaced it with a different cloud first thing, RealVNC Connect Viewer, that requires a login to at least obtain, and is anemic in terms of features.
Not that RealVNC is VNC. However, enshittification has clearly taken another scalp.
rcxdude14 hours ago
VNC is one way of doing remote GUI access (well, more a family of different protocols and products with different capabilities and tradeoffs). RustDesk is just another product that does the same thing but doesn't have a specific connection to VNC as a protocol so e.g. doesn't have to handle legacy authentication modes and stream formats. In my experience most remote access solutions beat VNC for performance, for example.
aborsy11 hours ago
I have used Remmina over SSH and Tailscale (and generally don’t trust remote desktop tools), which is mentioned in various places by my operating system provider.
How does RustDesk compare with that?
fsh11 hours ago
It's not VNC-based, so the performance is much better. It also supports multiple monitors.
aborsy10 hours ago
Thanks!
GNOME Remote Login runs an RDP server, and RDP indeed isn’t fast enough, although is TLS-encrypted.
SubiculumCode4 hours ago
Isnt the issue with the latter is tha tyou need a local session first before you can connect?
boardwaalk13 hours ago
Is there a reason to use this over something like Sunshine/Moonlight?
himata411312 hours ago
rustdesk just works, moonlight and sunshine is janky as hell outside the local network due to the fact it uses like 5 different streams.
SubiculumCode12 hours ago
I had a heck of a time ever getting that to work. Also, can that support multiple concurrent users?
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NoboruWataya10 hours ago
I have a Raspberry Pi hooked up to my TV and whenever I need to control it from my laptop (getting and interacting with the same screen on my laptop that I see on my TV) I have been using VNC. It is quite slow. Would this work better for that use case or is it really intended for something different? (And if the latter are there better solutions than VNC for what I want to do?)
c-hendricks10 hours ago
Yes this will give you similar results.
There's VNC and VNC-likes (rdp, steam link, rustdesk, etc) which all do similar: stream a screen, allow remote keyboard/mouse, maybe redirect sound, maybe use video encoders.
There's also things like deskflow, which allow you to use one keyboard/mouse and control with multiple machines.
NoboruWataya9 hours ago
Thanks! I will check it out then.
Kavelach10 hours ago
If you can look at your TV instead of your laptop, I highly recommend using KDE Connect
andai15 hours ago
Menu css looks a bit dodgy with the notification at the top:
manav14 hours ago
Does my screen have to be on?
SXX10 hours ago
Btw does RustDesk support microphone input passthrough from client to the host yet?
So far it's only feature I found missing compared to proprietary solutions.
j_aime7 hours ago
Unfortunately, no, it's not working. I use Rustdesk all the time. I've found a way, but it's really stupid. I have a GL.iNet Comet to manage my headless machine. That unit supports microphone passthrough. I send my mac's mic through that to ubuntu. It's an awful solution hah, but it works. I'm able to use dictation through that on Ubuntu. I didn't buy the comet specifically for mic use. I found out after the fact that it was able to do it.
ChocolateGod14 hours ago
How does this work on a technical level?
Does it framebuffer grab the current session and inject input events?
jchw11 hours ago
Usually the way to be able to even get the login screen is to use DRM/KMS based capture and use uinput for device emulation. It doesn't strictly need root but it does need privileges a user wouldn't have, like access to the DRM card nodes and uinput device. Sunshine does it this way.
It entirely sidesteps the problem of X vs Wayland, although this does mean the unattended physical seat can be physically taken over while you are remote.
codedokode10 hours ago
As I remember, generic DRM interface allows only writing to a framebuffer and not reading from someone's else framebuffer. Do they use some vendor-specific APIs?
hparadiz14 hours ago
Yea I need to know this before I even consider something like this. I'm guessing it's a daemon that runs as root in the background.
LoganDark15 hours ago
RustDesk should fix their password requirements: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/2888
applfanboysbgon14 hours ago
It's open-source, so just build it yourself with the tiny change. Something this trivial could be done with a 30 second prompt at this point, so there's not even an excuse of "too much effort".
I will note that the XKCD password scheme being proposed there is, in fact, completely insecure. A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day. You can argue that it's the user's choice to be allowed to use insecure passwords, but arguing that that scheme is actually secure is just wrong.
bilkow13 hours ago
> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day.
Let's run the math:
EFF's long wordlist[0] (the one used by Bitwarden's passphrase generator) has 7776 words, which is about 13 bits of entropy per word (log2(7776) = 12.92). A 4-word passphrase then has 51.7 bits of entropy, meaning there are 2^51.7 possible options for the passphrase, which is 3.66E15 possible options.
For reference, a password with all completely random characters and symbols, for each character you have 70 possibilities, or about 6 bits of entropy. An 8-character completely random password (no words or the usual patterns) then has about 49 bits of entropy, which is less than a 4 word passphrase.
About the time it takes to crack it, assuming you can test an average of 1 password per μs (you probably can't, as passwords are usually stored using key derivation functions[1][2] with work factors tweaked for current hardware) it would take ~116 years to crack it. I usually see 5-passphrase recommended nowadays, which would multiply the required effort by 7776.
Sure, a 16-character random password has a lot more entropy, but it's also a lot harder to interact with (reading, comparing, typing) if you end up needing to, and it's still easier to crack than an 8-word passphrase.
[0] https://www.eff.org/dice [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_derivation_function [2] https://cheatsheetseries.owasp.org/cheatsheets/Password_Stor...
applfanboysbgon12 hours ago
> assuming you can test an average of 1 password per μs (you probably can't, as passwords are usually stored using key derivation functions
You are not (usually) in control of what services use to encrypt your password, and most software in the world uses a basic hash like MD5 or SHA-256 rather than a key derivation function, meaning you are wildly, wildly underestimating the number of guesses per second here. To suggest that passwords are "usually" stored like that is just wildly incorrect. Only well-educated, high-quality engineers who care about security, a vanishingly tiny portion of the industry, even think about things like this. I still run into government services that e-mail me my password in plaintext.
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Sorry, but edit attaching a reply to another comment here because HN rate-limits me:
> This is just completely false.
My mid-tier laptop GPU can crack the usual wordlist in under 12 hours against MD5 (46 billion guesses per second), or about 3 days against SHA-256 (6.5 billion guesses per second). A desktop 4090 would likely crack SHA-256 in under a day (on average).
I make claims with confidence because I am speaking about facts. Why are you making claims with confidence when you have no idea what you're talking about? The quality of discourse on this site is so, so low.
wavemode11 hours ago
What you said:
> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day
What you're saying now:
> My mid-tier laptop GPU can crack the usual wordlist in under 12 hours against MD5 (46 billion guesses per second)
So your response to the plain mathematical fact that, no, your consumer GPU cannot crack "four random English words" in a day, is that your consumer GPU can crack four words chosen from a list of a few thousand, in a day. Followed by personal attacks. Okay.
BenjiWiebe8 hours ago
Well, there could be quite a range of performance between a mid-tier laptop GPU (his consumer GPU), the average consumer GPU, and the average (gamer's) consumer GPU.
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drdexebtjl10 hours ago
Great, then use 5 words instead.
Trying to pick a strong password assuming the service you’re signing up for doesn’t care about security is pointless. You’ll be pwned regardless of what you do.
mr_mitm12 hours ago
> most software in the world uses a basic hash like MD5 or SHA-256 rather than a key derivation function
For passwords? Where do you get that information?
applfanboysbgon11 hours ago
Experience? Looking at codebases? The one in question does, in fact, use SHA-256. HN is a bit of a bubble because there's a large demographic of FAANG-tier employees here who work at big tech or unicorn startups, but most software in the world is not made by FAANG or unicorn startups, and the standards are way, way lower than you might think they are if you're used to living in this bubble. For software development practices in general, not just password storage. I think it's taken for granted that every single person on HN uses VCS, but even that is a luxury in many real-world working environments outside of SV.
Even if only 10% of the services you use use MD5/SHA-256 (although I certainly would expect it to be >50% if we could do a large-scale study), why accept your password being easily compromised 10% of the time?
tredre314 hours ago
> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day. [...] but arguing that that scheme is actually secure is just wrong.
Let me do just that!
This is a networked service. You send your password (or a hashed form) to it, and it validates it. You don't have the local hash to bruteforce it offline.
Even if we only consider the top 10k english words, it's 10000^4. It's going to take years to bruteforce this over a network because you'll go through so many rate-limits, cooldown periods, and outright bans that it's questionable whether it's even possible.
applfanboysbgon14 hours ago
Virtually any password other than "password123" is fine if you're rate limited to a few guesses per day by a networked service. Passwords should be secure against the inevitable data breach when the service you're using loses their hashed password database, which happens on a routine basis.
strbean13 hours ago
Seems like the only real issue here is that rustdesk uses SHA256 instead of argon2.
tialaramex14 hours ago
> This is a networked service. You send your password (or a hashed form) to it
Hopefully neither. But given everybody involved in VNC seems to be the same batch of clueless morons who built all those PHP web forums twenty years ago with MD5 as the password hash, who knows what they cobbled together. Maybe an expert can chime in about what actually happens here?
Yes, for a sensible scheme this can't work.
minitech11 hours ago
I’m not an expert in RustDesk, but I did take a quick look at the code, and it’s filled with massive red flags like [1], where it appears the general mechanism is SHA256(SHA256(password++salt)++challenge). I can’t even tell if the whole thing is vulnerable to trivial MITM ([2] makes it sound like it might be; while investigating, I ran into the concerning comment [3], “fall back to non-secure connection in case pk mismatch”). I can’t find any actual documentation of the protocol and it’s a custom thing built on NaCl boxes, yikes. [4] generates a keypair on the fly for a new connection to sign the box containing the symmetric key generated at the same time…
I would recommend never using this software.
[1]: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/blob/7aa98d43cf1962a7a2... [2]: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/8392 [3]: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/blob/7aa98d43cf1962a7a2... [4]: https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/blob/7aa98d43cf1962a7a2...
wavemode12 hours ago
> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day.
This is just completely false.
LoganDark3 hours ago
> the XKCD password scheme being proposed there
I proposed replacing the ridiculous checklist with zxcvbn.
I agree xkcd's scheme is a bad example and distracts from the real point, which is that a checklist is fundamentally bad, not that some specific password format should be allowed.
Fidelix13 hours ago
Did you even check what hash they are using?
applfanboysbgon11 hours ago
SHA-256. Did you? My point isn't constrained to this exact service, though. My point is that the XKCD-style passphrase is in general not secure. If you make a habit of using it, assuming that the service in question will take care of securing it super duper safely on your behalf, you will get bitten when a service doesn't do this.
XorNot10 hours ago
If character class constraints are enforced then that password becomes incredibly strong though - e.g. require a capital, and special characters and a number.
Plenty of sentence passwords meet that but now the probability space has exploded.
throwaway2744814 hours ago
> A modern consumer GPU can crack "four random English words" in a day.
Sure, if you can rely on users using a specific format. The joy of the xkcd technique is you don't need to tell other people what yours is.
But, people just aren't going to remember strings of gibberish. Expecting users to do this is just silly.
applfanboysbgon14 hours ago
The "joy of the XKCD technique" is that it prescribes a specific format millions of people will use, and it's so trivial to break that you can throw it into your cracking algorithm at virtually no cost.
If you were willing to use a bespoke, more secure variation of it, you could include a capital letter and a number rather than filing an issue on a repo insisting that you be allowed to use exactly the insecure variation.
throwaway2744814 hours ago
I think you are both greatly overestimating the number of people who remember what xkcd is and their willingness to do what a webcomic prescribes uncritically. What you describe as "bespoke" is likely the normal way someone might use it: with their chosen format.
For instance, I have multiple separator characters, multiple beginning and end characters, and numbers places at specific places, and arbitrary casing. That may be overkill but it's still essentially the xkcd format.
applfanboysbgon14 hours ago
> I think you are both greatly overestimating the number of people who remember what xkcd is and their willingness to do what a webcomic prescribes uncritically
XKCD's youtube videos get millions of views each. It is a very popular comic, and that particular password advice has spread beyond it.
> What you describe as "bespoke" is likely the normal way someone might use it.
And yet the issue in question is about someone who refuses to adapt it.
strbean14 hours ago
The user in question might have their own personal format that doesn't meet the RustDesk constraints. E.g. they may not use capitals, but use `word1$word2&word3@word4`.
Tayloring your format to the requirements of each site is a step towards defeating the utility of the system; now the user needs to remember some arbitrary hard-to-remember details for each password.
Although having a standard format for your passphrases across sites removes some of the advantages over just using the exact xkdc format (when one of your passwords is compromised and attackers can guess your custom format elsewhere now)...
throwaway2744813 hours ago
This is a non-issue with a password manager
XorNot10 hours ago
"Look up - there's 7 polywaffles in the sky!"
That phrase will pass almost every single password requirement, and no one is going to crack it by brute force dictionary attack.
throwaway2744813 hours ago
> And yet the issue in question is about someone who refuses to adapt it.
Does this person exist?
pineapplepizza68 hours ago
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j_aime7 hours ago
I've been using rustdesk for years. I love it.
superkuh6 hours ago
This depends on libdrmtap "A (LLM AI coded) zero-dependency C library for DRM/KMS framebuffer capture on Linux" https://github.com/fxd0h/libdrmtap which doesn't actually seem to give remote access so much as remote access to the screen visuals. The other hard parts of remote access on the various waylands are still left up to more proprietary, per wayland compositor, custom extensions not in wayland core or exposed by the kernel. That is, not universal.
GlacierFox12 hours ago
Does this work without a screen on the remote machine? I have a server with SSH access if like to view for bespoke tasks now and then.
husky86 hours ago
Kvm companies shutter
Kelteseth13 hours ago
Funny that the video in the blog post still needs X. I will see myself out....
Fidelix13 hours ago
No need to announce
aspbee55513 hours ago
RustDesk works so much better and easier than vnc and other vendored solutions. No need to open ports, no need for vpn, it just works, no account BS, no vendor lock in BS.
I have used RustDesk for years, also run my own lookup/relay server so I do not need to rely on the public lookup server
While everything else gets enshitified RustDesk just keeps getting better
wartywhoa2313 hours ago
Definitely a lifesaver for tech support!
And the fact it's self-hosted is priceless.
SubiculumCode13 hours ago
Without self-hosting, how can I be sure that the middleman server layer won't affect my security?
zuzululu13 hours ago
wonder if it can support gaming and sounds too ?
7bit15 hours ago
Okay. The feature I'm waiting for is the self-hosted web client.
senectus15 hours ago
oooh any chance it can be integrated into guacamole?
pudgywalsh11 hours ago
They've been working on Wayland for what, nearly 20 years now, and it still has not reached feature parity with 1996 Windows NT?
cryo3211 hours ago
To be completely fair it's 2007 Windows NT they haven't caught up with.
magicalhippo8 hours ago
Windows NT4 (1998) had officially support for Terminal Services, so RDP[1].
cryo3211 minutes ago
Yeah but it wasn’t a compositor.
pineapplepizza68 hours ago
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zuzululu15 hours ago
so this means I can be on a vacation, turn on my ubuntu desktop remotely, login and control it ? I have a strong need for this as my desktop is also a server
amelius15 hours ago
You can already do this with VNC or Xpra (the latter is a screen/tmux for graphical applications).
zuzululu13 hours ago
so whats the edge that rustdesk that offers ? gaming ?
yjftsjthsd-h9 hours ago
Performance, at any rate. VNC is fine but can be laggy.
Fnoord5 hours ago
I ran Wayland over Waypipe over WireGuard (Tailscale, in my example), and it worked very well. That over a 1 gbit fiber... shared with whole building/office. In fact, I ran remote AOSP this way.
Now, VNC might actually also work very well over WireGuard or SDN based on WireGuard. Since VNC was designed for LAN, in a time where LAN was the common use case.
For me, low latency is from the past. I always got either wired, Wi-Fi, LTE, or Starlink.
VorpalWay14 hours ago
For a remote Linux system you can also do a lot over plain SSH as well.
shevy-java11 hours ago
Is Wayland finally feature complete to xorg or are they still refusing to?
