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slowinan hour ago

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I have installed?

Related: please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages! Don't make the runtime your user's problem.

talentedcoin24 minutes ago

I really wish this was not the top comment on HN. It’s a cool project! Maybe try it??! Or just be silent!

Pooge22 minutes ago

I agree with you that the author of this project is catching a stray bullet, but I also have to agree with GP that `curl | bash` got way too out of hand.

I don't know where that came from but it should definitely disappear.

At least the developer includes the binaries for all platforms in the GitHub release page.

enquirewithin10 minutes ago

You can have any opinion, so long as it’s mine.

talentedcoina minute ago

Why should anyone care about your opinion if you are adding no value to the conversation?

CharlesWan hour ago

The source is prominently linked: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

> please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages!

Around 40% of Linux CLI tools are written in interpreted languages.

antonvs19 minutes ago

The standard Linux CLI tools are installed by a package manager, which has addressed the issues raised upthread. Installs via curl | bash don’t automatically benefit from that.

slowin36 minutes ago

> The source is prominently linked: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

This is how I found out it's a javascript project and didn't install it. I only even bothered to do that because I actually wanted to try it. I'm just saying it would be awesome to have that right there next to the curl command.

> Around 40% of Linux CLI tools are written in interpreted languages.

And I prefer not to use those. Everything I said for Javascript holds for Python, Perl, Ruby... as well.

rtaylorgarlockan hour ago

Let those be the 40% we prefer less :) Revealing stack does not validate the framework, but we appreciate some foss sauce 'round these parts.

Pooge23 minutes ago

And in the GitHub release page they include compiled binaries anyway... Why would you advertise `curl | bash` as a way to install if there's a binary available?!

Download it, put it wherever you like (probably `~/.local/bin/`) and you're good to use it.

Sometimes I truly wonder...

bobajeffan hour ago

I know where you're coming from. I've been worried about all the supply chain attacks on npm too. And I'm far from a security expert. However, if you're okay with installing binary packages via `curl somesite.com | sh` I don't think you are in a better position with regards to security.

slowin38 minutes ago

Security is just one of my concerns. I'm actually more worried about borking my system because it's doing some out of band stuff with various javascript pieces that already exist on my system (not by my choice!).

lavelaan hour ago

Agree. If you really want to know what's used here: probably uses bun single-file executables[0] so shouldn't clash with anything else on your system.

[0] https://bun.com/docs/bundler/executables

misterchephan hour ago

lmao curling and exec'ing a vibe coded script running in a vibe-coded runtime, what could possibly go wrong!

otabdeveloper425 minutes ago

Don't worry about it, it was code reviewed by Claude.

tealmoonx13 minutes ago

You install some JavaScript nightmare the moment you land on the page!

The only reason to wrap JS in a downloadable executable is deploy it elsewhere like iOS or desktop - I might add: In Trojan horse fashion where the user believes it’s a native app until you accidentally hit your Refresh hot key and you go “Noooooo JavaScript not again!”

You can neva eva escape tha scrip

Embrace

slater8 minutes ago

Why do you keep making new [something]moonx accounts?

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rdiddly2 hours ago

Useful on its own merits.

Everybody who's distracted by the name and can't get past it, there's a thread developing here somewhere, where they're comparing it to Bloomberg.

ynacan hour ago

100% agree. It's a fun name, but it ends up begging the comparison. The look and feel of it was an instant download for me. It's actually exactly what I want and even tried / failed to build on my own for years. I'll be supporting this project.

brendoelfrendo2 hours ago

Yeah, I think a few of the widgets here are neat and useful. It's not a Bloomberg replacement, but it might be a good replacement for a few tabs? You could get the info elsewhere, but I like this presentation more.

Edit: Ah, they're offering a pro subscription. While I appreciate that cloud services aren't free, I'm not sure that I'm willing to pay to replace a few browser tabs. Not for me, but maybe for someone!

dewey23 minutes ago

There's many competitors these days, one that Shkreli always seems to use in his streams is https://godelterminal.com (Not open source though).

eudamoniac21 minutes ago

He created that company I believe. I interviewed at Godel long ago and would probably have received an offer but he was convicted during the interview process and they paused hiring.

dewey17 minutes ago

Ah you are right, it's mentioned on the career page. I thought he might be an advisor there.

u83 hours ago

Yeah... people aren't paying Bloomberg $31,980 per year for a TUI. They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

ryukoposting2 hours ago

Asked a dear friend in the finance industry what he thought about Bloomberg. He's the type of guy who uses these systems daily. Mostly paraphrasing:

  1) Bloomberg was lightyears ahead of anything else in the pre-internet days, so there's a lot of UI familiarity.

  2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then tell the back office folks to execute the trade. Direct quote: "I'd wager 90% of the ~400 trillion in annual bond trading value happens over Bloomberg DM"

  3) Bloomberg is the biggest and best aggregator
This is fascinating to be because I always assumed latency was the key. After all, the only Bloomberg terminal I've ever seen in person was hooked up to its own dedicated fiber drop. It seems like the chat and sheer breadth of data are the differentiators.

_fat_santaan hour ago

I've heard the same thing about Bloomberg's chat many years ago. Since everyone you're chatting to also has to fork over ~$30k/yr to use it, there's the implicit assumption that you're talking to a serious person.

mattnewton2 hours ago

TIL Bloomberg terminal is the original iMessage blue bubbles network

pizzalife2 hours ago

It's funny to think some of the world's largest trades are being done in something that resembles a game's tradechat. (WTS bonds)

lq9AJ8yrfsan hour ago

For a long time fixed income trading took place over AOL Instant Messenger and later Yahoo chat rooms.

I am not making this up.

There were custom frontends that would enrich things like cusips.

globular-toast2 hours ago

I find it a bit less funny. There is this perception that what finance people do is super important and grown up but following a brief stint in the industry I realised it literally is just a game. We used to trade bits of stationery and trading cards for fun at school. They never stopped. The only difference is people who never consented to any of this are paying for it all, especially when it all goes wrong.

allthetimean hour ago

That should have been obvious from the mere fact that the bottom rungs are almost completely populated by silver-spooned nepo-babies.

linkregisteran hour ago

Why would a trader need your consent to make a trade with somebody else?

grigri907an hour ago

I assumed they were referring to market crashes caused by irresponsible levels of risks and deceptive practices like we saw in 2008, and/or government-funded bailouts

FromOmelas7 minutes ago

often they're trading things with externalities

yulker34 minutes ago

why should we have financial regulation at all, is that what you're getting at?

sheeshkebaban hour ago

It’s pretty bad except that any other way is even worse.

nose37 minutes ago

I find it interesting that nobody from the finance community is directly speaking about their experience in this thread.

What's the equivalent of hacker news for financial folk?

RattlesnakeJake19 minutes ago

Apparently it's the Bloomberg chat

tikhonj2 hours ago

Bloomberg is big enough that different aspects of the system are going to be absolutely key for substantial subsets of its customers.

Terr_41 minutes ago

Hence quips like: "Most customers only use 10% of your features, but every customer uses a different 10%."

akk014 minutes ago

Ptuh, call me back when Bloomberg implements spacebar heating!

steveBK1232 hours ago

Yes its a multi-decade long-tail of thousands and thousands of use cases all used in different combinations by different users.

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NoboruWatayaan hour ago

It's really only a specific subset of traders that need close to zero latency. Many other finance professionals deal on larger timescales so it's not that big a deal. I am more "finance-adjacent" so I don't use Bloomberg personally but have worked on plenty of deals where "time sensitive" means "it has to get done this week. Oh wait, the bank hasn't finished its KYC checks yet. Okay, it definitely has to get done next week. Unless the KYC checks are still ongoing, in which case, for sure gotta get it done by the end of the month".

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dist-epochan hour ago

Bloomberg Terminal is for humans. It takes about 10 clicks to do a stock BUY. your average retail stock trading platform is much quicker, many have 1 click trading.

The dedicated fiber drop was most likely for reliability, not for latency.

deadbabean hour ago

There is a marketplace on Bloomberg where you can buy and sell interesting stuff you don’t really find anywhere else. Some of it stored in freeports and delivered to your freeport, etc. top tier escorts, etc.

tecleandoran hour ago

In freeports? So you mean like art?

traceroute662 hours ago

> They're paying for the data source

Yup.

If you want fixed-income data, Bloomberg is the only shop on the street data-wise.

If you want other financial data, Bloomberg's fixed entry-point pricing tends to make more sense in terms of bang for buck than its competitors modular price sheets.

People saying Bloomberg is just about the chat are simply embarrassing themselves.

Look at the price sheets of Eikon, Factset, CapIQ etc. There is no such thing as a cheap "Bloomberg killer".

Quality data is expensive. So are the leased-lines it arrives at Bloomberg on. So is the data wrangling architecture.

ovrnightr10 minutes ago

Bloomberg is also a channel for other data providers. You can access your gas pipeline flow data and index prices, which you buy from SP Global, via Bloomberg, for example. It brings data sources into one place.

resters28 minutes ago

It's a bit ironic that in a country with free markets, so much of the data that is relevant to modern finance is proprietary and quite expensive.

The exchange/marketplace is the oldest business in the world. How absurd that in 2026 seats on exchanges cost millions and the entities that control exchanges are mechanisms of gatekeeping rather than quality control -- the cronyism shown to SpaceX reveals just how corrupt it's become.

dpmartinezan hour ago

This is what is wrong with the world today.

seanclayton40 minutes ago

They're too busy dealing with their fake life problems to think about their impact on the world.

devin3 hours ago

To be fair, I don't see anywhere on this page where they try to suggest that this is competitive with a Bloomberg terminal.

wnmurphy2 hours ago

Seriously. I see a cool product that someone built and is sharing with the community, and the top comment is basically a criticism that it's not a $31k terminal.

dpmartinezan hour ago

It is almost like they want to be ripped off, the massive amount of gatekeeping is bizzare.

Financial information should be free for everyone.

nancyminusone17 minutes ago

The very fact that it isn't is what makes it so valuable.

intrasightan hour ago

Yesterday's data is much cheaper and often free ;)

deadbabean hour ago

It is, after its value has been exploited.

croes2 hours ago

The name

NDlurker2 hours ago

Inspired by and competing with are different things

pverheggenan hour ago

Well yes, but a lot of people immediately jump to conclusions based on name alone, it's human nature. Definitely something to consider when you're picking a name for a project.

An example that comes to mind is JSON5. People have a visceral reaction to the name, it sounds like it's trying to be HTML4.01 -> 5 but for JSON. In reality, it has its uses but doesn't supersede JSON whatsoever. The name itself has given it a bad rap though.

If you pick a name like "Gloomberb" the most obvious interpretation is that it's a Bloomberg alternative.

jimmydddd2 hours ago

Financial companies are cutting down on the amount associates can bill the firm for a $30 dinner, and the time before they can have the firm pay for a $30 car ride home. They definitely wouldn't pay for Bloomberg if it could be easily replaced.

rmah2 hours ago

Bloomberg terminal is only $133/day (assuming 240 work days per year). So, while $32k/yr seems expensive at first glance, given the total annual cost of an analyst or trader, it's not huge. Of course, they'd rather not spend the $32k/yr if they could avoid it, if bloomberg can give you an edge on just one or two trades a year, you come out ahead. So...

toomuchtodoan hour ago

I bet its cheaper than tokens for software development with higher ROI.

forshaperan hour ago

I can say companies with less than 20 mil arr pay around $150k a year for saas and others (sometimes the same) also pay 50k a year for a niche agent harness.

adjejmxbdjdnan hour ago

Skipping a dinner is not losing you much money.

Making a bad trade or missing a good one due to delaying data or bad data can pay for several years worth of bloombergs for everyone in your firm in one moment.

jpfromlondon2 hours ago

Nobody ever got fired for choosing Bloomberg, even if there was a viable alternative there is no way anyone is pioneering the switch.

mushufasa3 hours ago

Correct. Also, Bloomberg has messaging for traders that is actually an important network effect in certain domains.

hmokiguess3 hours ago

Can you elaborate on the network effect piece? Curious about that

lesam2 hours ago

It's really useful to have a chat app that is gatekept behind a 20k/year+ subscription. It's a particularly useful signal if someone is offering you a million+ dollar asset for sale.

hmokiguess2 hours ago

I get that, was more curious if you knew how much that is used for signaling and the traffic there. I sort of expected these communities to exist in other sources (like regular SMS / Slack / private back channels etc).

brendoelfrendo2 hours ago

I'm going to copy-paste one of the comments from ryukoposting higher up in the thread because I think it's relevant here:

> 2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then tell the back office folks to execute the trade. Direct quote: "I'd wager 90% of the ~400 trillion in annual bond trading value happens over Bloomberg DM"

You may discuss trades via SMS or Slack; maybe you're important enough that you have a broker, and you send them your idea. But the broker at the investment bank is probably handling those trades via Blomberg terminal. That's the network effect: all the bankers are in Bloomberg chat, and it is therefore the easiest place to find who owns an asset and negotiate a trade.

hmokiguessan hour ago

Thank you, that was the piece I wasn't aware of! Appreciate the reposting.

kortilla2 hours ago

Same effect as a country club. You know a lot about the person you’re talking to just based on their presence.

hmokiguess2 hours ago

That's a cool way of putting it, thank you!

quickthrowmanan hour ago

Some assets are traded OTC aka “in a chat window”.

rdiddly2 hours ago

Good thing they're not asking $31,980 per year for it then?

weinzierl42 minutes ago

Also, and in addition, the value of the Bloomberg Terminal is not the UI, it is the consistency. You don't pay for an accelerator and a break pedal, you pay for the 100% guarantee to find them in the place >100k people have been trained to find them.

storusan hour ago

Can't you just use a bunch of agents to extract financial statements from company websites the moment they are published? OK, no insider info but you can still do quick agentic fundamental analysis and decide which companies are interesting.

rvz3 hours ago

> They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

We keep seeing hundreds of Bloomberg competitors mimicking the interface and they always forget that the chat (with the connections), data and the newsroom are the reasons why Bloomberg's network effect is close to impossible to break.

Using the Bloomberg Terminal is taught very early at colleges for any finance professional, which is how they get them as well.

notpushkin2 hours ago

I think it is more oriented towards retail investors (if anybody) than professional users. In theory it could compete with TradingView?

(I’d especially love to see some federated social feature built in!)

hmokiguess3 hours ago

Is it still though? I have a few finance friends and they all seem to be on TradingView these days

quickthrowmanan hour ago

Are they trading bonds, equities, credit default swaps, options, , etc in large dollar amounts? “Finance” is pretty broad, Bloomberg is for traders and I-bankers afaict.

dist-epochan hour ago

Many people pay the Bloomberg Terminal subscription ONLY for the chat. They don't use anything else from it.

minimaltoman hour ago

I mean look at the name... this seems more like a fun quip than a product. I'm over here basking in the glow of dem vibes.

handwarmers2 hours ago

does the author claim to be a bloomberg clone?

theodric3 hours ago

Some of us are just here for the æsthetics! Plus I already have the SEA100 "Centerboard" with chrome accents, and this will help complete the look.

d--b2 hours ago

actually a lot of data is not included in the standard bloomberg license and you have to pay extra (mostly passing through to the data vendors) to get access to it.

There is not a single reason for Bloomberg’s dominance but the one feature that keeps people on it is the chat.

sakimonkey3 hours ago

it's a GUI and a TUI, pay attention to the screenshots

passivegains3 hours ago

Does the GUI have Bloomberg's data source?

grahammccainan hour ago

I don't think the finance field needs a better bloomberg, I think the whole interface and everything needs to be rethought. Part of the moat is the data, and data access. But I think we need to completely reimagine the terminal interface and interactions with the introduction of AI. The finance industry probably will be slow to adapt, but I genuinely think someone could completely disrupt 99% of the wall street businesses with an original idea.

nancyminusone14 minutes ago

A large amount of the value is that you aren't allowed in.

springtimesunan hour ago

My observation is that finance and banking and corporate functions high enough up the ladder operate more like a clubhouse than cutthroat businesses. You’d think all you need to do is make a better interface, but if you’re not part of the club, you’re not doing the business (or even getting shot at it).

methodicalan hour ago

Bloomberg's moat is the messaging service within it, not it's aggregation of data

hodderan hour ago

People repeat this rhetoric all the time, but I promise you, finance professionals can and do easily migrate to other messaging platforms such as ICE chat. This isn't a moat for BBG

jeffbeean hour ago

Evidence for this being that BlackBerry Messenger and even AOL Instant Messenger had various amounts of traction during the lifetime of Instant Bloomberg.

hmokiguess3 hours ago

this looks neat, what's the data source and latency?

crossthestreams3 hours ago

Looks like Yahoo and the SEC for filings: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb/tree/cd82b5c61a8d0eb0d...

ComputerPerson2 hours ago

Which is not great for history, right? Seems like a real detractor.

You pretty much need $30/m subscriptions for historical data. Not that it couldn't be worked into this.

tolugenius3 hours ago

Was just about to ask on data sourcing, I imagine yfinance is used but can't really tell for anything else (like for prediction markets or news data).

thm2 hours ago

andreypk2 hours ago

Interesting project, the view looks like gpui based interface, but source code say that it is web based interface written on typescript

charv3 hours ago

An aside - do tools like this (or what it's modeling, the Bloomberg Terminal) really offer that much benefit to finance folks?

elictronic2 hours ago

Here's an article. Basically if your trading stocks no. If you are trading different instruments or want interaction with the money folks (connections) yes. https://financetracked.com/bloomberg-terminal

From it: "Bonds and Fixed Income: It provides the best data for interest rates and debt markets. Global Economics: It easily connects data from different countries, such as currency rates and government debt. The Chat Room: The messaging system is the industry standard. If you want to talk to the biggest players in the market, you often need to be on Bloomberg."

Ntrails2 hours ago

Depends a bit how you're trading stocks - bbg is still an extremely attractive data provider so I'd not dismiss them out of hand.

Retr0id2 hours ago

Bloomberg Terminal costs ~$24K per user per year, so the fact that people are paying for it implies it offers at least that much value. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, most of that value lies in the data sources.

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sigmonsays2 hours ago

This post / OP really needs to say if it's AI SLOP or not and to what extent. This looks like AI slop.

jeffbeean hour ago

Any "TUI" you've seen in the past few years is 100% vide-coded slop.

dpmartinezan hour ago

Curious what you consider those that aren't 100% 'slop', aside from the common ones.

Because I'm starting to see the word 'slop' as a synonym for:

"This person may or may not have used AI to build software and I don't like it"

jeffbee7 minutes ago

Slop is slop when the author could not have done it without the AI.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_koan#:~:text=%E2%80...

TZubiri3 hours ago

What I pressume is the text for "Gloomberg" in the Hero header looks very fucked up

https://imgur.com/a/ssiKckF

Hopefully it's not intentional

nhinck23 hours ago

How much intent can you ascribe to any of this?

KomoD2 hours ago

Yeah, looks totally broken on my machine too.

cwnyth3 hours ago

Looks fine on my end (Firefox).

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timcobb3 hours ago

what platform is that? looks fine on mine

TZubirian hour ago

MS Edge, which is Chromium (Blink?) Based

8note3 hours ago

Gloom Harder?

ghjv3 hours ago

looks fine on my machine

u83 hours ago

How well do you think their terminal works if they couldn't even spend the time to clean up their vibe coded website?

dpmartinez3 hours ago

> How well do you think their terminal works if they couldn't even spend the time to clean up their vibe coded website?

Your website is literally down.

https://i.postimg.cc/YCdkwZZq/image.png

And I don't think their website is that bad.

KomoD2 hours ago

> And I don't think their website is that bad.

The download button doesn't even work properly.

Clicking download in the top right gives me a .dmg, the other download button in the hero gives me the .exe, the one in the footer gives me a .dmg

Docs give me a 404, blog is empty

dpmartinez2 hours ago

> The download button doesn't even work properly. Clicking download in the top right gives me a .dmg, the other download button in the hero gives me the .exe, the one in the footer gives me a .dmg

I mean, it works for me?

The site is clearly not ready and maybe they didn't expect people to find it, but that doesn't mean the site is bad.

It is just a work in progress.

I'm not even interested in the site anyway the software and the source interests me more.

https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

KomoD2 hours ago

> I mean, it works for me?

Doesn't invalidate my experience.

> and maybe they didn't expect people to find it

What do you mean? It's linked on the Github repo.

> but that doesn't mean the site is bad.

I think a site that doesn't work properly is a bad one. That's just my opinion.

dpmartinez2 hours ago

> What do you mean? It's linked on the Github repo...I think a site that doesn't work properly is a bad one. That's just my opinion.

I mean isn't this the point of open source?

You can fork the repo and fix the problem instead of complaining?

echoangle8 minutes ago

You can still give constructive criticism of an open source project though, right?

TZubiri14 minutes ago

So, volunteer time for free for someone else?

>I mean isn't this the point of open source?

Only if you just found what open source is.

In actuality, successful open source projects recruit developers by providing value to them. If there's a failure before you even install the product, there's 0 reason for someone to start contributing right away, why not start their own project at that point? Contributing 1 to something that has 0 value is a donation in exchange for nothing, not how Open Source usually works.

TZubirian hour ago

Exactly, our time is limited, so if we are to evaluate a product, we will take any excuse possible to veto a vendor.

If you fail at a webpage in 2026, you have no chance at doing anything complex or innovative.

misterchephan hour ago

total slop, who cares?

gymbeaux3 hours ago

When I see new software now, my first thought is an LLM wrote it and it makes me not want to use it. I also assume there are bugs and it’s not particularly feature-rich.

MyHonestOpinonan hour ago

It is becoming very hard not to use an LLM. I have been working on a project all this year. I started doing everything by hand, and I am using LLMs a little bit more every day. I suppose we want to use projects that were crafted with care, whether or not LLMs were used. But it is not easy to figure that out. It reminds me. 30 years ago, before code formatters were popular, you could tell good code just by looking at how carefully formatted it was.

ahahs3 hours ago

my first thoughts too.

janlukacsan hour ago

same and for some reason people are downvoting. why would we use vibecoded stuff with sensitive information?

deweyan hour ago

What’s sensitive about displaying public information in pretty graphs?

RetroTechie3 hours ago

gloom.sh/docs - 404: This page could not be found.

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