jnwatson4 hours ago
Fable 5 on Max knocks it out of the park:
Definitely has some creative flourishes.
(I made no extra prompting. Just the above text. Single shot.)
xeromalan hour ago
I'm out of credits or I would've tried fable. I knew it would do well
zombotan hour ago
rex paludis is a nice touch.
amarant4 minutes ago
It's even Carolus rex paludis! Not sure if fable is a history buff or a Sabaton fan, but I repeat myself.
nsbshsuzuhan hour ago
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hn_throwaway_999 hours ago
I thought this was great, and hilarious. Kudos to Opus 5, I thought it was the only one that came close to passing. Interestingly, I thought many of the failures drew the frog face OK, and they had some type of big blob for the jaw, so they knew "Hapsburg jaw" meant a protruding jaw, but it wasn't really connected to the frog face in any way that made sense.
Small side note, the first gemini-2.5-pro one totally reminded me of some sad faced meme or Pepe the frog from somewhere. Anyone know what I'm referring to, tried to find it.
viciousvoxel9 hours ago
Perhaps you're thinking of Salad Fingers?
qwertybased8 hours ago
~I'm leaning more towards the rage face poker face~
edit: nevermind, definitely "monkey-puppet side-eye" vibe.
krisoft6 hours ago
Curious that none of the attempts draw the frog from side profile. If i have to draw this i would immediately know that drawing a recognisable frog is the easy part of job. Expressing a particular jaw shape and melding it on the frog is the hard part. And jaw shapes are more prominent from the side.
Even absence of thinking this through you would think that some frogs will be from the front, some from the side. Just by chance. And yet all appears to go for the harder pose.
jostylr5 hours ago
When I asked ChatGPT, it gave me a side profile, first as a PNG which was good and then I asked again for an SVG and it obliged, doing a version of what it produced but it was bad.
SVG: https://jostylr.com/imgs/frog_habsburg_jaw.svg
PNG: https://jostylr.com/imgs/frog_habsburg.png
Then I tried Codex with Sol 5.6 High and got a face forward one.
firesteelrain3 hours ago
It looks like it’s got some form of cancer or lymphoma
thebigshipop9 hours ago
Hi all, the site is getting hugged to death, thank you, was not expecting this kind of warm response. I will be working to make this more reliable, in the meantime, sign up for my newsletter: https://www.jaymollica.com/blog/
also my favorite SVG was def the google/gemini-3.6-flash
edit: ok better now I think
troupo9 hours ago
> also my favorite SVG was def the google/gemini-3.6-flash
That looks like something from Machinarium or Robots :)
abound4 hours ago
My personal benchmark is a directory containing a bunch of research papers on the physics of popping popcorn kernels, and a prompt about creating high fidelity, photo realistic 3D models of all the different kinds of popped kernels. Fable (surprisingly? unsurprisingly?) refused to do it last time I tried, and the results from other models are, well, fine, but there's still plenty of headroom on this particular one.
uncivilized4 hours ago
LLMs don’t work particularly well in 3d applications in my experience. Every new model release I’ll ask one for help with my path tracer and results are horrid.
leptons3 minutes ago
I had great success with Claude editing and cleaning up STL files that I created by 3D scanning objects using my cellphone. The scans were very messy and the AI made the clean-up really easy.
konart27 minutes ago
glm could have been 5.2.
But Kimi and Claude win this (from models listed on the page)
riazrizvi7 hours ago
The secret to great interview questions and challenge tests is keeping them secret. Posting them on HN and getting them onto the front page puts them in jeopardy.
wren69919 hours ago
Opus 5 clearly frogmaxxed.
gemini-3.6-flash runs 2 and 3 responded best to the royal portrait context.
fasterik9 hours ago
Arguably, a royal portrait is a misinterpretation of the prompt, since it's just asking for a specific facial feature. But I guess you could look at it as a bit of artistic license.
andybak8 hours ago
> frogmaxxed
raninemandibularprognathism-maxxed?
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evan_9 hours ago
Hopsburg Jaw
zirkuswurstikus2 hours ago
ChatGPT MMD
ComputerGuru2 hours ago
What is MMD? That is not an svg.
spencerflem2 hours ago
SVG?
getnormality10 hours ago
This is a strong benchmark! None of these could be remotely mistaken for human art. Opus 5 comes closest.
rush869999 hours ago
It's opus 5 > Kimi K3 > grok 4.5
That's a pretty good benchmark
ianberdin8 hours ago
Check out my MacBook SVG benchmark. From my experience, it demonstrates the Real model’s behavior. However, I notice the errors it makes, which are similar to the mistakes made by the mistake model in code.
ricardobeat8 hours ago
Gemini 2.5 Pro fails, but has a distinctive art style that is quite nice. It seems to understand shading to a much higher level than all other models.
klooney2 hours ago
I preferred the Gemini 3-6 ones with all the extra kingly decorations
dehrmann9 hours ago
How do models approach SVG generation? In one version, I imagine them actually trying to reason about them as an LLM. In another, I imagine something closer to a GAN.
TSltd6 hours ago
I would be interested to hear more about that too. SVGs seem to be one of the biggest challenges- it has to write reasoned code rather than simply find averages of rasterized pixels. One thing I noticed is that none of the models chose to draw the frog in profile which would have made the jaw shape more prominent. To me that suggests the reasoning is very limited: "draw a frog" and "add feature X". The statistically average frog in the SVG training data is apparently front-facing. I tried the prompt in ChatGPT images (not SVG) and it produced a photo-realistic image of the frog in profile, showing the jaw clearly. Then when I asked it to convert the image to a cartoon vector it fell back to a generic front portrait template similar to those shown in the benchmark, nothing like the profile it had just produced.
akomtu5 hours ago
Image -> loose text description -> SVG. Did you notice that ChatGPT writes a verbose description of the image first?
linksnapzz9 hours ago
A friend’s favorite prompt is “Batman & Julia Child; in the kitchen laughing at a ham”. Sounds simple, but has been surprisingly tough.
buffer_overlord4 hours ago
They all suck
leumon9 hours ago
Can you also try the new deepseek v4 flash?
thebigshipop9 hours ago
I will add it to next month's report!
leumon8 hours ago
Thank you!
k1e7 hours ago
No gpt-5.6 sol and no fable?
thebigshipop4 hours ago
I will add them for next month!
gerdesj8 hours ago
Please could we have a human generated image to compare the AI generated tosh with?
MiroslavPokorny8 hours ago
My test is to ask AI to pick up all the rubbish at the beach.
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csomar7 hours ago
Here is GLM 5.2 (https://codeinput.com/s/HAO0qTxw2ia) which is still inferior to Opus. I can't find Qwen 3.8 which now is my daily driver replacing GLM. This SVG test matches my experience when working with the different models. The other models can get the details right but their output is structured in a way that makes little or no sense.
I also did a timeline from 4.7 to 5.2: https://codeinput.com/s/7oK2IIA7qRO The improvements in models looks much less impressive with this test.
throwuxiytayq8 hours ago
My personal human benchmark: "Jump on one leg, while reciting the national anthem of Latvia, translated to Spanish, backwards, while drawing a frog with a brush held by toes of the other leg, on the ceiling". So far they're not doing very good but I'm sure they'll improve over time.
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epolanski8 hours ago
I don't get the point of these benchmarks, what are they supposed to represent practically?
acdha4 hours ago
The vendors like to toss around terms like “thinking” or “reasoning” to encourage prospective buyers to anthropomorphize models. These challenges are a visceral reminder that none of those marketing claims accurately describe was LLMs do: they’ll happily return things even the worst human illustrator would never hand in and make errors showing that there’s no model of the world behind anything they do.
That doesn’t mean there are no ways to use them productively but rather that you should keep in mind that the same model will happily give you code or a decision with the same level of error unless you have carefully setup a QA regimen to prevent that.
Mindless21124 hours ago
Unless the LLM has an SVG renderer in its toolbox, it's like asking a human to draw while blindfolded. It's amazing if they can do it well, but it's practically meaningless.
viccis8 hours ago
The ability of an LLM to produce something not in its training data set.
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runarberg8 hours ago
For me this looks ideological (or even political), not practical. The theory is that LLMs are approaching general intelligence (whatever that means) and that the more generic of a task they can perform—no matter how badly—the closer we are to AGI.
Specialized models can do this a lot better and for far cheaper then LLMs, but because people are so politically invested in a single statistical model being able to outperform a human on every metric (no matter how expensive the compute), then we get these ridiculous benchmarks.
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epolanski8 hours ago
Gemini 3.6 flash is crazy good.
Would've wanted to see also DS4 flash.
gpvos8 hours ago
Crazy funny, yes, but not good.
epolanski8 hours ago
I think that on the rendering side, it's miles ahead of the rest, even if off topic.
troupo9 hours ago
Mine is any variations on mammoths in various situations, or anthropomorphic. Since mammoths are invariably majestically going from one place to another in any of the books, models have hard time imagining anything but that.
Also try a fantasy archer with a proper bow who is not brooding, sitting in a fantasy wood :)
AlienRobot7 hours ago
Am I the only one who thinks it's incredible that an LLM can do this, and at the same time it's ridiculous to expect it to be capable of doing it, even thought it clearly can do it?
thebigshipop10 hours ago
I think this one has advantages over the “pelican riding a bicycle” one because it hinges on an anatomical feature that many models associate with royalty, “habsburg” being a lineage and “habsburg jaw” being an anatomical feature.
Seven of fourteen models silently imported royalty into a prompt that named only an anatomical feature. Two of them knew they were extrapolating ("because Habsburg") and did it anyway.
Mistral returned byte-identical output across separate calls.
Gemini narrates its work in 65 comments; Llama says nothing.
If you're deciding which model to trust with instructions, "how much does it embellish beyond what I asked" and "does it behave deterministically" are directly practical questions.
n00bskoolbus9 hours ago
The identical pair from Mistral took me off guard. Many of the other models were so varied between the runs which is more what I would expect.
fwip8 hours ago
I wonder if the setup accidentally hit a cache at some layer.
HPsquared9 hours ago
Bite-identical?
thebigshipop9 hours ago
clearly I missed an amazing copy opportunity, thank you haha
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sixtyj10 hours ago
For those who don’t know a Habsburg jaw also known as mandibular prognathism, it is a genetic condition characterized by a protruding lower jaw, which was notably prevalent among members of the Habsburg royal family due to their history of inbreeding. This condition often resulted in significant facial deformities and difficulties with eating and speaking.
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