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UEFA and its national associations will not participate in FIFA competitions uefa.com

brunoborgesan hour ago

Infantino clearly wants to see FIFA making billions so he and many others can pocket millions legally. But the only way for this to happen in a non-corrupt way, given that FIFA is non-profit and therefore requires a lot of questionable operations, is to turn FIFA into a business like NFL / MLS.

The problem with that is that it then it is no longer a sport, rather a... business.

UEFA letter is spot on.

jmathai43 minutes ago

The experience interacting with FIFA is so terrible already. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if it turned into a profit machine.

CodingJeebus35 minutes ago

Agreed, the tickets to the tournament this year were just outrageously priced. Football is historically a working class sport, but $1,000 to watch a team like DR Congo in the group stage is next level criminality. And it's only going to get worse from here.

curun1r20 minutes ago

FIFA looked at this World Cup as an experiment. They wanted to see whether turning the monetization knob all the way to 11 would encounter significant resistance or whether fans would still watch/attend. The US, with its plethora of expensive stadiums and lax regulatory environment for price gouging compared to Europe, was the perfect testing environment. They upped the number of teams to 48 to get more games, used dynamic ticket pricing, added hydration breaks for more commercials in markets that would allow it and added a few other income streams. All this more than doubled their profits because, and this is the important part going forward, fans didn’t push back. They complained, but the still came/watched.

So this will now be the new norm. Host countries will be ones where laws don’t prohibit gouging fans. They’ll come up with creative solutions to meet the rotation requirement like the upcoming host a couple games in South America farce that’s allowing them to go to Saudi Arabia after that. They’ll continue to push the boundaries of decency until they get sufficient pushback.

jmathai7 minutes ago

I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but I said before any of this mess, and just dealing with the ticket purchasing experience, that this would be the last World Cup I attend.

It’s sad though. The World Cup, while imperfect, remains an event that brings the world together. We don’t have many of those left.

javier2an hour ago

For Infantino, they reckon his salary can go from 6M to 60M under this new org…

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ardit3339 minutes ago

They also got so greedy that even EA couldn't deal with them anymore and they ended up destroying the Fifa videogame franchise

tmgldn35 minutes ago

Imagine being more money hungry than EA - a company which makes billions from gaslighting children into gambling money on getting their favourite players.

oliwarner34 minutes ago

They just made $15bn.

jimbokun26 minutes ago

Which is clearly not enough.

brunoborges22 minutes ago

The point is not how much it made, it is how to transfer that wealth (whether 6B or 60B) out of a non-profit into someone else's account without looking like, or literally being, a criminal.

testdelacc110 minutes ago

A nonprofit can be questioned about how it pays people.

A private company answers only to shareholders.

seviu40 minutes ago

FIFA is also a terrible employer

Got friends working for them as developers. They ran away. In months

jackbravo32 minutes ago

Are you talking about EA or FIFA?

lossolo25 minutes ago

> and many others

Trump and Kushners

"Joshua Kushner is now the kingpin in driving the sale of the World Cup to investors and family ties are tight around the project"[1]

1. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2026/jul/30/fifas-sale-...

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orangedogan hour ago

What's new? I thought it has been known as a big-money thing for some time now.

jimbokun23 minutes ago

The new thing is trying to take the organization from a non-profit to a corporation. Mainly so the executives can increase their already large compensation apparently.

Interesting parallels to OpenAI.

glitchcan hour ago

FIFA made $~15 billion USD this World Cup, roughly double what they made in Qatar in 2022. There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x.

overfeed33 minutes ago

I didn't realize the commercial-block-sized "hydration breaks" were that profitable.

For a second, I thought the Americanization[1] of fùtbol would be done gradually and no one would complain as we'd be slowly boiled. I'm glad the corrupt bastards got greedy/impatient and took a big swing.

1. Sports as business first, catering to owners first, sponsors second, broadcasters, and then lastly fans. IMO non-profit sports organizations are the best model for fans, who I identify the most with.

haunteran hour ago

The difference that FIFA ran the whole tournament now. There was no Local Organizing Committee (LOC) like with every single previous event.

lossolo8 minutes ago

> There are many low-hanging fruit that can be optimized to increase that revenue by 10x.

The $15 billion figure is for FIFA's ENTIRE 2023-2026 revenue cycle, so not just this World Cup. But the obvious "low-hanging fruit" was making the tournamenta lot larger (104 matches instead of Qatar's 64), so a lot more tickets, hospitality sales, ads etc

Also two 3 minute hydration breaks per match, giving broadcasters additional advertising windows.

That's your "optimization".

triceratopsan hour ago

This is so highly unusual even sports-allergic HN wants to discuss it. It's like a religious schism in some sense.

xhevahiran hour ago

It's about brazen corruption in one of the world's most famous institutions. Taking an interest in it isn't as irrational as all that.

coffeebeqnan hour ago

I don’t know whos on Infantinos side on this

tverbeure26 minutes ago

There are 200+ participating countries. Many of those are on his side, because they’re tiny and easy to bribe: a few million is significant for them and often that money can be siphoned into corrupt pockets.

That said, a World Cup without any of the 55 UEFA countries wouldn’t make sense commercially.

jimbokun22 minutes ago

But the USA men might finally do well!

Depending on whether the South American teams show up…

haunteran hour ago

Trump and his family.

His son in law is running the investment firm https://apnews.com/article/world-cup-fifa-investors-kushner-...

In turn Trump wants to nominate Infantino for Secretary General of UN https://www.euronews.com/2026/07/22/trumps-pick-for-the-next...

DeRock37 minutes ago

There is nothing this family does not see as an opportunity for corruption. Comically evil.

an0malous28 minutes ago

as an opportunity for profit*

I think it’s important to clarify the incentives at play, people are rarely evil for the sake of being evil

skygazer17 minutes ago

I think the evil part is the [at any cost] part, the incentives are irrelevant. An AI that only wants to make paperclips isn't evil because of the paperclips.

steveBK123an hour ago

Kushner

hdgvhicv44 minutes ago

> Sepp Blatter weighed in, writing on X: "The close relationship between the Fifa president and the US President [Donald Trump] has reached a financial dimension that is deeply damaging football. No-one has the right to sell our game."

Sepp Blatter for crying out loud.

dismalaf40 minutes ago

Who better to recognize corruption?

sizzzzlerz21 minutes ago

That's like John Gotti saying Al Capone was corrupt.

altmanaltman20 minutes ago

Blatter was corrupt to the core but cared about the actual sport if you look at his record. This new president is like a james bond villian caricature like he actually wants to destroy the sport.

qzwan hour ago

The companies that want a piece of FIFA, I assume.

Edit: I just realized you meant who here on hn, in which case I assume the hardcore capitalists/libertarians. But they can speak for themselves.

mrhottakes31 minutes ago

On HN? The capitalist/libertarian/Elon posters, Meta employees, etc.

shmuli9an hour ago

About time

Hard to think of a modern institution as corrupt as fifa. That may not bother too many people because it’s not their government, but I just think it stinks

t0mpr1c338 minutes ago

FIFA has been monstrously corrupt since at least as far back as the 1970s (Havelange).

I backslid this year, but did completely boycott watching in 2018 and 2022. Russia is a pariah state and should never have been allowed to host, and Qatar was manifestly unsuitable.

The only difference this year is that the bribery and political favors were out in the open.

paxys19 minutes ago

There are levels to it. Sepp Blatter was notoriously corrupt, but Infantino makes his "envelope full of cash under the table" style of corruption look amateurish.

maccard16 minutes ago

> Hard to think of a modern institution as corrupt as fifa

IOC is about the only organisation that comes close to it I think.

nkg42 minutes ago

I'm so happy to see they care enough to take a stand. The last World Cup was a sh-t show. I expect the LA olympics to be no better.

dmarcos35 minutes ago

How was it a shit show? I’m genuinely curious. I attended 5 games (Atlanta, LA and Dallas) and was a fantastic experience minus the process to get tickets.

antonyt29 minutes ago

Not OP, but I would guess: "hydration breaks" to inject commercials, half-time shows that felt alien to much of the core audience, and various rule-bending shenanigans (Ronaldo, Balogun).

triceratops28 minutes ago

The ticket prices and scalping (sorry, authorized re-selling to find the market clearing price) were robbery.

orangedog32 minutes ago

Sports people (I was listening to Bill Simmons) rated it pretty highly.

There was nothing egregious and it was widely attended.

t0mpr1c326 minutes ago

The way that the Iran team was only allowed into the USA on match days was a disgrace.

Refusing entry to a Somali referee on the spurious grounds of links to terrorism was a disgrace.

The overturning of Falorin Balogun's ban was a disgrace.

The ticket prices were a disgrace. The transport to the stadiums was a shambles.

I could go on.

rsynnott7 minutes ago

> The transport to the stadiums was a shambles.

This bit was kind of baffling to me. Like, the US has a bunch of large stadiums. Presumably they sometimes get used for stuff. How is it not a constant disaster?

There’s a medium sized (50k capacity) stadium near me, and even _with_ a train station with a train each way every ten minutes right beside it, and within easy walking distance of about five high capacity bus routes, it’s always a bit of a shitshow when a big event finishes. I’ve no idea how it could work _at all_ if you’re just depending on buses and cars, which a bunch of the US stadiums seemed to be.

charlieyu117 minutes ago

The World Cup final is supposed to be a war and the half time show turned it into a clown fest.

triceratops7 minutes ago

I can't agree with that. Host countries share their culture through the World Cup. South Africa had vuvuzelas, Qatar put a bisht on the winning captain's shoulders, and the USA had a half-time show.

Now if only it had been a good half-time show...

t0mpr1c330 minutes ago

Maybe the way that Infantino nakedly advanced political favors for Trump (the f×××ing peace prize, Folarin f×××ing Balogun) and now wants a fat slice of payback?

ktallett27 minutes ago

The fact a ban was overturned as a political favour.

paulbjensenan hour ago

It's only a matter of time before there are sponsors on the Yellow and Red cards...

coffeebeqnan hour ago

Guaranteed slots to the tournaments for patrons

fred_is_fred43 minutes ago

The red card for covering your mouth while talking to an opponent is brought to you by Telegram.

khazhoux19 minutes ago

“And that’s the second State Farm Yellow Card for Haaland!”

runarberg23 minutes ago

“Looks like this is a card. He already has a yellow (sponsored by Qatar Airwaves), and may be looking at his second. YES! he is receiving is second yellow, this time sponsored by Universal Studio, and here is the red card. Sponsored by Red Bull. He is leaving this game and his team mates one down.”

Second commentator: “It is true, Red Bull gives you wings. In this case, the wings only take you to the shower room.”

secretsatan40 minutes ago

I follow a local team and don’t really follow the larger picture, but injuries are sponsored, i always thought that would produce a perverse incentive.

jotajota244 minutes ago

This whole thread is full of people that cannot conceive a model where profit is not the goal

tedggh16 minutes ago

Why is this out of the gate bad? Note that this is not taking FIFA to private equity, but creating an investors owned subsidiary to run events and commercial operations where the non profit arm will still own 80% of it. With the right protections it could help FIFA make more money and reinvest in the sport, particularly women’s football. FIFA currently makes 40% of what the NHL makes, not the NFL, not NBA. Soccer is by far the most popular sport on the planet, the fact that it makes a lot less money than hockey is insane.

jotajota2411 minutes ago

Why is it bad to sell 20% of the biggest tournament in the world to a private company lead by people involved with the most corrupt administration in the history of the US? The model has been working fine for decades, why does it matter that it makes less than american sports?

sunrising44 minutes ago

It's a pity that those letters are not sent for many many other things.

haunteran hour ago

I think the mandatory ad break introduced by FIFA at the World Cup was also too much for most football people, not just fans. Changed too much, broke the dynamics, basically the sport became a game of 4 quarters instead of 2 halves. These two things combined together are just over the top and unacceptable (UEFA already said they won't use these mandatory ad breaks anywhere)

This is the closest where I can see a future where we have a rugby union / rugby league like schism.

Oh and guess who is behind the investment group: https://apnews.com/article/world-cup-fifa-investors-kushner-...

jimbokun17 minutes ago

I agree completely with your assessment of the water breaks, but the games were extremely entertaining and I watched as much as I could.

triceratopsan hour ago

Of all the things wrong with the World Cup, the most inconsequential ones - hydration breaks and the final half-time show - have attracted the most griping.

alberto-m43 minutes ago

Changing the pauses of the game alters the momentum and, as consequence, the results. How is that “inconsequential”? There have been cases of corrupted referees before, but violating the Laws of the Game in plain sight is an unprecedented attack on the sport.

HelloMcFly26 minutes ago

I think hydration breaks can be defensible as long as they are a) conditionally triggered by pre-existing criteria that is b) created by an honest assessment of player welfare independent of economic considerations.

I can't say I think the halftime show is a big deal at all though.

jen2016 minutes ago

They should also not be used an excuse for teams to be coached as a group.

xmprt32 minutes ago

I can agree that it definitely makes it a different game/playstyle but I'm still not sure if it's guaranteed worse. Putting ads during the break is obviously bad and a cash grab but from a gameplay perspective, it's not clear that a short break during the half is necessarily worse.

orangedog42 minutes ago

How does it violate the laws of the game?

Every single break time decision in football is arbitrary already.

nwbt32 minutes ago

Every rule in sports is arbitrary, that's not an argument. If you want to do it properly, ask about the spirit of the game, not the laws - and there's clearly a conflict there.

jotajota249 minutes ago

I don't mean to be disrespectful but this is a dumb statement. Do you think splitting each half in 2 quarters doesn't have an impact on how the game is played?

coffeebeqn43 minutes ago

The VAR calls 5 minutes after the fact were the most bothersome thing to me

jimbokun15 minutes ago

Good thing you don’t watch Premier League. The World Cup VAR was snappy in comparison.

gffrd33 minutes ago

… and the 9+’ stoppage for every match.

gffrd38 minutes ago

> the most inconsequential ones

This is like saying “customers aren’t worried enough about the corporate process - they only care about the end product!”

monegator40 minutes ago

the mandatory ad breaks were usa-level bullshit that never happened before, not even when they were playing in the fucking desert (and that world cup should have been boycotted too, but for different reasons.)

a few years ago when the momentum was moving towards tennis, some european clubs proposed a "super league" comprising of only the elite teams, the purpose was again to maximize ad profits (and i should go back to check who actually proposed it, who they were affiliated with). That time they were suggested not to proceed, or else they would be boycotted from all other events, the players too. That was also a good decision.

football (not handegg) it already corrupt enough as it is, and too much money is flowing into it, it's incredible and heart warming that there is still some dignity left in the associations.

jimbokun15 minutes ago

There was extensive coverage and discussion of Trump getting the Balogun red card overturned.

triceratops15 minutes ago

Thank you! An actual problem!

orangedogan hour ago

Why would non-fans even care? It was a 3 minute break, non-fans would not have any idea that you were going for 2 halves to 4 "quarters". I think this is the kind of thing purists care about but most people don't, most don't even know it is new.

scbrg41 minutes ago

I'm most certainly not a football fan, but I definitely know that a match consists of two 45 minute (and then some) halves. It's pretty much equivalent to a non motor enthusiast knowing that there are usually four wheels on a car.

I'd say this is very, very common knowledge in huge parts of the world. It's not something only enthusiasts and purists know.

orangedog38 minutes ago

Sure, but they aren't leaving the field. There are plenty of stoppages in game already which take as much time. In that sense it's nothing new. Do non-fans view it as changing to 4 "quarters"? I'm not sure most people would care. This is what I mean it's the kind of thing that football purists care about but it's a very small thing.

alexanderchr16 minutes ago

The breaks change the game more than you’d think, especially when the coach gets to have a strategy session with the whole team. Completely changed the momentum in several games.

scbrg17 minutes ago

I don't know... I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that you're from a country where football isn't very popular. I don't think you realize just how many fans there are. How utterly ingrained it is in the culture of many countries. "non-fans" make up a minuscule minority of the population of at least Europe, and as far as I understand it South America and parts of Africa too. Not sure about Asia (varies wildly between countries, I suppose), but according to [0] it's estimated that about 3.5 billion people are considered football fans.

This is certainly something many people I know have cared a lot about - and again, I'm not a football enthusiast myself, but still the vast majority of the people I know are, because, not being one really is an outlier.

[0] https://www.topendsports.com/world/lists/popular-sport/fans....

> There are plenty of stoppages in game already which take as much time.

Well. Not really. And those "stoppages" are part of the game. Actually watching the players quarrel with the referee and whatnot is something football fans want to do. It's not comparable.

gffrd31 minutes ago

“I’m not sure what the big deal about tripling the number of tire changes in the race is.”

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rsynnott30 minutes ago

> non-fans would not have any idea that you were going for 2 halves to 4 "quarters"

… By non-fans do you mean people who have literally never heard of football, or something? I’m very far from a fan, no interest at all. But, I mean, I know there are two halves. Everybody knows that.

orangedog25 minutes ago

There still are 2 halves. Framing it as quarters is the entire thing. There are numerous things throughout a game which will cause the game to be paused just as long, which is why there is stoppage time.

hamper65322 minutes ago

There aren’t usually numerous 5-minutes pauses in a football match, no.

poncho_romeroan hour ago

Why would anyone be in favour of more ad breaks?

orangedogan hour ago

I'm not arguing for ad breaks, I'm saying non-fans would not even be aware this is something new.

This is the thing that is too much? I just don't get it. The entire thing is a spectacle to sell ads.

DrSiemer23 minutes ago

Europe is full of people who are not fans, but will still hear all about the games when their country plays, because it's basically impossible to avoid. Chat groups, work banter, waiting rooms, everybody will be talking about it ALL THE TIME. There is a base level of knowledge for the sport everybody shares. Maybe it's the same with American Football in the US? As a European, I still have no idea what that is even remotely about.

A game having two main uninterrupted halves is one of those foundational facts. Players train for being able to play for that long without getting too thirsty to continue.

ahartmetz33 minutes ago

In almost every part of the world, all people know some basic things about football (and I do mean the one where you kick a ball with the foot), like it has two halves of 45 minutes.

charlieyu123 minutes ago

On the other hand, it gives a chance for fans to turn off the TV when the game isn’t great

monkey_monkeyan hour ago

No one really gives a shit what Americans who don't follow football think, though.

orangedogan hour ago

The original post mentioned people that weren't fans, though. Who are we talking about that are "football people" but not fans. I'm not trying to be dense, I just don't know which audience this is.

Fargren31 minutes ago

USA is the exception here. In most countries, even people who are not football fans are pretty aware of how it works.

I don't often watch football outside the world cup. I don't support any teams. But I know how football is meant to be played, and I was definitely annoyed about the hydration breaks.

Does USA have people that don't follow american football but will watch the Superbowl? Would those people notice if there were three times as many breaks as usual?

ChickeNES4 minutes ago

> Does USA have people that don't follow american football but will watch the Superbowl? Would those people notice if there were three times as many breaks as usual?

Well...many if not most of the people who don't follow NFL and watch the Super Bowl are watching it for the half time show and ads, so more breaks would make them happy, heh.

hamper65342 minutes ago

Most football non-fans absolutely know that a football match is supposed to be two halves.

orangedog40 minutes ago

It's still two halves there is just another short stoppage time in which players stay on the field, the same as every foul, goal, and variety of other timing based decisions in football.

hamper65329 minutes ago

I wouldn’t know, I haven’t watched a single football match since 2018. As for short stoppage time, football use to have much less than, say, rugby. Was it different this year?

jen2014 minutes ago

This would only be true if they did not allow the hydration breaks to be used as a group coaching opportunity.

einrealist24 minutes ago

Yes, but isn't football already overly commercialised? Why is advertising for sports betting or alcohol any better than the FIFA issue? UEFA should take a look at itself, too.

jimbokun18 minutes ago

You can be against more than one thing.

ff1011 minutes ago

I secretly hope that Infantino goes ahead with it anyway. UEFA and others will form something new. Something that replaces the incredibly broken and corrupted FIFA with a de-facto and de-jure non-profit governing body.

sizzzzlerz19 minutes ago

Somewhere in this fetid swamp of corruption, you just know the trump crime syndicate has its greasy hands on the pie.

verdverm9 minutes ago

*hands on a peace of the pie

hn_submit19 minutes ago

I find the UEFA standpoint a little disingenuous since commercial interests have been a top priority in football (soccer) for decades. Claiming that allowing investors to participate will hurt the sport are at the very least a misrepresentation of the current situation.

Although I disagree with his methods and goals I enjoy watching the way Infantino uses power play to stack the cards in his favor.

The only way for the UEFA to reclaim authority would be to demand two-thirds voting rights. The model of "one country, one vote" clearly works to UEFA's disadvantage even though its clubs contribute the majority of FIFA's income.

igsomething12 minutes ago

The same UEFA that added redundant matches and teams to the Champions League for money, and that came up with the Nations League because they wanted to extract more money from the national teams?

dotcoma34 minutes ago

Europe, united at long last!

mgianluc7640 minutes ago

Good calls. Honestly, the last World Cup already had way too many unwatchable matches before the quarterfinals. And the hydration pauses to sell more ads. And that halftime show during the final.

jimbokun14 minutes ago

It was incredibly entertaining and I watched as many games as I could.

riffraffan hour ago

It's crazy that as despicable an organization as UEFA is, they're still far better than FIFA.

Infantino has been a disgrace, I hope they manage to get rid of him, but I have very little hope.

vostrocity33 minutes ago

I don't follow any sport, but I actually don't understand why UEFA and FIFA are non-profits when all the American leagues (MLB, NBA, NFL) are for-profit corporations. It seems to work well in America.

Normal_gaussian10 minutes ago

MLB & NFL only changed to for-profit organisations somewhat recently (2007, 2015). afaict NBA has always been for-profit.

Internationally the standard is non-profits. Most sports have both their international organisations and highest standard of play organisations as non-profits - football, tennis, golf, cricket. The international components of baseball, american football, and basketball are all non-profits (though they are lower standards of play than the US internal leagues).

paxys8 minutes ago

American sports leagues are also non-profit organizations. Profits go to the individual teams. So no, FIFA should not be run by private equity firms.

overfeed14 minutes ago

> It seems to work well in America.

Does it? Who does it work out well for? Franchises continuously extort tax-payer funds for stadia,some team switches host cities every few years, and the for-profit corporations are legal cartels that decides who gets to own a team. The number of ad-breaks is horrendous to anyone who's watched sports elsewhere.

tmgldn21 minutes ago

Because they were designed to be decentralised federations, atop the footballing body in each country. More generally, the US is the most capitalist country, whereas the rest of the world does automatically see capitalism as justified, superior or inevitable.

Lastly, football is a grassroots participation sport that is seen by its fans as more of a religion than a conventional act of entertainment. Of course, religion in the US is also often for-profit, but hopefully you get the point.

charlieyu125 minutes ago

Are they? Their revenues are limited and they can’t really extend their influence outside USA. Meanwhile European games are watched globally

t0mpr1c319 minutes ago

Europe is where all the money is made in football. UEFA just want more of the pie.

FIFA is a repulsive pit of corruption but UEFA isn't much better.

Remember Blatter and Platini?

jen2013 minutes ago

Blatter was president of FIFA, not UEFA.

t0mpr1c34 minutes ago

Yes, and when he was investigated for corruption both he and Platini, president of UEFA, were banned.

This was barely 10 years ago, it's not ancient history.

paxys40 minutes ago

Football/soccer is one place where Europe can easily flex their muscles against American capitalism and corruption. Good on them for saying it loud and clear.

jimbob4515 minutes ago

This is a joke, right? I can’t think of any league as blatantly corrupt as FIFA on any level.

jotajota248 minutes ago

What are you on about? FIFA is not a league and certainly not in charge of european football

whateveracct37 minutes ago

CONCACAF too

scaredreallyan hour ago

ELI5? What are the factors and implications?

jimbokun11 minutes ago

FIFA made ludicrous amounts of money as a non profit running the last World Cup and want to transition to a for profit corporation to make even more.

UEFA representing the European nations with the most competitive teams and many of the biggest stars, just told them good luck running a World Cup without us.

xenospnan hour ago

There is no World Cup without UEFA.

coffeebeqnan hour ago

UEFA is Europe basically. So like the nexus of modern football

ahartmetz32 minutes ago

7/10 of the currently top ranked national teams are UEFA members.

overfeed6 minutes ago

UEFA's reach affects the remaining 3/10 and beyond. Nearly the same fraction of world cup players (68%) earn their livelihoods playing for European league teams- including many players representing non-European countries at the World Cup.

rsynnott13 minutes ago

Okay, got to admit I did _not_ have “Trump breaks the World Cup” on my bingo card.

verdverm7 minutes ago

E is for everything TTD

blahblaher43 minutes ago

Good to see some "balls" can still be found

ktallettan hour ago

The FA's worldwide don't need FIFA, they can set up a new world tournament. You will get a lot of poor nations who stick with FIFA for the cash but at the end of the day without European teams the world cup and FIFA will have minimal value. 5 of the last 6 world cup winners were european and it will only get more biased towards Europe. Argentina post Messi have no chance, and Brazil are the furthest away from winning than they ever have been.

jimbokun9 minutes ago

There will be no cash for the poor nations without the European teams competing.

paxys10 minutes ago

FAs coming together and creating a new FIFA will just mean you get another organization that is exactly as corruption-ridden as FIFA. There's no point starting fresh if you don't fix the underlying problem.

Izikiel43an hour ago

> Argentina post Messi have no chance

Hold my beer

ktallett36 minutes ago

Spain have a far more youthful side, who can easily win again. France will come back, as will England. Argentina have few players coming through and many stars will have retired by the next tournament, even youthful Alvarez will be 30 next time out.

baalimagoan hour ago

It seems like Europe, yet again, have to stand up for ethics, morality and try to deflect corruption. It's so tiresome.

t0mpr1c35 minutes ago

This is UEFA we are talking about.

Remember that when (FIFA president) Blatter was investigated for corruption, (UEFA president) Platini was also banned.

hdgvhicvan hour ago

It’s standing up for football. Far more important.

cccbbbaaaan hour ago

Well, FIFA is also an European organization. Swiss, to be exact.

dgellow39 minutes ago

It’s located in Switzerland, but it’s a global organization and has really close ties with the US president

Carbon160325 minutes ago

You don't understand, good things come from the EU, bad things come from those filthy non-EU Europeans.

secretsatan34 minutes ago

Sorry to be a pedant, while switzerland is in the european landmass, it is not a member of the EU.

triceratops32 minutes ago

Sorry to be a pedant too but no one said EU.

javier244 minutes ago

Maybe. But we take football quite seriously.

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jkingsberyan hour ago

Isn't Infantino European?

efdeean hour ago

Swiss.

onesandofgrainan hour ago

..

triceratops40 minutes ago

You seem to believe things that bring people joy are a waste of human potential. Please explain. Are we only meant to be machines that produce 16/7?

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kreyenborgi36 minutes ago

I wish sports would be sports, business be business, and politics politics. Whenever they mix, it is for the worse.

mrhottakes33 minutes ago

Good. Good riddance.

TechTechTechan hour ago

devyan hour ago

According to aljazeera's article, "the core investor would be a New York venture capital investment firm created by Joshua Kushner, the brother of US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner."

ChrisArchitect14 minutes ago

Welcome. Not a dupe if some time has passed between submissions without much discussion or upvotes. And this is the source.

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ChrisArchitect14 minutes ago

Welcome. Not a dupe if some time has passed between submissions without much discussion or upvotes. And this is the source.

Ekarosan hour ago

FIFA is just upholding western values. Profit, exploitation and money over everything else. They with FIA and likes are just showing the world what truly matters for western world.

tmgldn32 minutes ago

Put it this way - Europeans don't generally call themselves from "the West" in 2026 - it's an American geopolitical fantasy.

t0mpr1c317 minutes ago

To be fair, China and Russia participate in the fantasy.

paxys39 minutes ago

American values, not western.

marcosdumay27 minutes ago

US values, from the culture of the last 40 years.

orangedog34 minutes ago

We're really going to act like the entire world doesn't have issues with this.

Given this is a worldwide institution dealing with this, I think you are both casting the new too small.

Famously before either the US or Western world, these values were never celebrated.

xhevahir43 minutes ago

Or maybe not, since it's Europe who are objecting here?

callamdelaney43 minutes ago

Yet it’s the very west uefa protesting.. right

glitchcan hour ago

Cue UEFA's leadership being replaced in the next year or two. FIFA has had a taste of the amount of money involved in professional sports. There's no going back.

t0mpr1c37 minutes ago

FIFA has been spectacularly corrupt since at least thd 1970s, and UEFA is not far behind.

When Blatter was kicked out of FIFA for corruption, the USA provided a legal venue for the investigation. Between Infantino and Trump you would think that is off the table.

Expect some kind of back door deal.

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CodingJeebus38 minutes ago

50 of the 55 member UEFA states took the floor to express their outrage at FIFA, this is not a matter of UEFA leadership being out of touch. The vast majority of the confederation is ready to walk.

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