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Spying on kids to save kids from spying is stupid pluralistic.net

john_strinlai25 minutes ago

>"Age verification" means that everyone who does anything online will have to submit to fine-grained tracking and recording of all their online activities.

its been said 1000 times here, but: age verification doesn't have to be a nightmare dystopia of 24/7 fine-grained tracking and recording unless you are somehow hoping to achieve 100% success rate (something we have not done with any other law ever). there are several reasonable proposals that would be 90%+ successful without stepping on anyone's toes.

i am convinced that enough people in power know it, too, but see this as their chance to get the full-dystopia version rolled out.

pokstad13 minutes ago

Exactly. The same way that selling alcohol doesn’t require a paper trail of every beer I’ve bought.

SecretDreamsa minute ago

To be fair, I buy my beers on CC. If someone really wanted to know the best IPAs and session able beers they could get, they could audit my CC records and then cross check to the breweries and pubs to see what I was buying. Just depends how much someone wants to learns bout good beer.

hacker_8812 minutes ago

They can track you with cookies , now they have age and identity signals .

mindslight4 minutes ago

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kazinator7 minutes ago

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Santosh8324 minutes ago

You can't spy on kids without spying on everyone, and in any case they're interested in the everyone part. Ultimately they want 24x7, realtime facial & biometric monitoring of everyone using any "approved" device, and be sure that only approved devices will be able to join networks and do stuff upon them, so for those brave nerds thinking they can survive on GhostBSD from their basement, yes you can, but as Gandalf said, you can only fence yourself in, but not fence the world out. Sooner or later they'll come for everyone.

simultsop8 minutes ago

This is a very strong argument simply put

josefritzishere22 minutes ago

Security and Privacy are not the same thing.

curiousObject9 minutes ago

‘Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety’ — Benjamin Franklin

This isn’t a simple solution to the problem but it reminds me that it is not a new problem. We should remember that

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