florenan hour ago
Iran has figured out it can make the US president look like an idiot over and over at relatively low cost to themselves, since they're already so thoroughly excluded from the rest of the world.
aaomidi2 minutes ago
Or, US can’t figure out how to tell Israel to stop going insane
sameersri200412 minutes ago
Well you can definitely crack Donald Trump's image but when it comes to the loss, most of the loss will be borne by common people. Oil prices will once again rise markets once again fall and AI is already taking jobs. Inflation will rise along with unemployment and bad times are coming. This is happening mostly because of the foolishness of Trump.
pvaldes40 minutes ago
Iran or Israel?
kelseyfrogan hour ago
Iran is Lucy, Trump is Charlie Brown, and the Straight of Hormuz is the football
Jamesbeam26 minutes ago
most beautiful analogy I read today.
watwutan hour ago
I think it is about making US pressure Israel and eventually rupturing that relationship.
Meanwhile, Israel is trying to sabotage the peace process and dont care about that relationship.
the_origami_fox9 minutes ago
Agree with the first sentence. Second sentence is nonsense. Israel has committed to defending its borders. The government of Lebanon has committed to its own sovereignty. Hezbollah has committed too destroying Israel and ignoring the government.
It's the USA's concession to agree to link the Strait of Hormuz with this conflict 2000km away.
cosmicgadget19 minutes ago
Of all the stupidity of this saga, believing Israel would simply go along with an agreement requiring them to not attack Lebanon is the stupidest.
mindslightan hour ago
The real question is why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more than the numerous other idiotic things he's already done.
conceptionan hour ago
Unlike most times this affects people’s pocketbooks- the only real political motivation.
ravoorian hour ago
Approval still rides at 37%, which is pretty decent given the amount of turmoil that has been unleashed
sidewndr4621 minutes ago
He's not really up for re-election, so I'm not sure what approval numbers have to do with it
cosmicgadget16 minutes ago
Can this abundant turmoil be refined into gasoline? Asking for a friend.
whateveracct34 minutes ago
Trump is already hitting disapproval levels seen during the end of W's second term. He actually is bleeding support and politically damaged due to all this.
It gets worse when you break it down into key demographics. In the same way W's presidency influenced millennials away from the GOP, Trump is doing the same for young voters today too.
Non-whites and Gen Z were plus for him in 2024. He has absolutely cratered his support in those two demos.
We will see how the midterms go :)
kelseyfrogan hour ago
That tracks. My rule of thumb is that political topics have a 33% group that will never budge and the remaining 4-5% accounts for the lizard man constant[1].
1. https://www.spencergreenberg.com/2024/07/the-lizardmans-cons...
Danoxan hour ago
It’s exhausting every day every week every month it’s a new low, just when you thought it couldn’t get any lower or dumber…
pvaldes24 minutes ago
> why does this make Grump look like an idiot any more
Because this time his error is at a new level. Many countries had seen their strategic reserves of gasoline seriously reduced and about to disappear, and the fertilizers (that they need to feed their population in the next year) never arrived on time. His so called "little excursion" could kill much more people than any other of his former actions. For no reason or benefit.
And Israel isn't helping at all. They backstabbed Biden when he needed their help most in the elections, and are backstabbing Trump when he is desperate for the midterms. Everybody can see that Bibi plays Trump like a violin.
cosmicgadget26 minutes ago
So Iran can shield Hezbollah and other allies/proxies via its stranglehold on the strait. This is quite the shift.
ndiddyan hour ago
Iran’s perspective seems to be that their sovereignty will continue to be threatened by Israel if the US doesn’t start using its considerable amount of leverage over Israel to force them to stand down. I’m not sure how likely this would be, but Trump said that the US would start facing drastic fuel shortages and enter a recession in the next few weeks if he didn’t sign off on the MOU (which seems like a dumb thing to say while negotiations are ongoing but whatever), so it seems like Iran has a lot of power here. Ultimately, I think Trump and Netanyahu’s decision to start this war may result in the largest shift in the Middle Eastern power balance since the post-World War II period.
RevEng21 minutes ago
Trump agreed to the MoU saying it's allies would stop attacks, including in Lebanon. Israel continues to bomb it. It's up to Trump to put pressure on Israel to stop in order to make good on his deal. It's no surprise this is instantly falling apart - Trump promised something he couldn't deliver. We can only hope that he does eventually put enough pressure on Israel to stop.
tjpnz4 minutes ago
Bibi's stupid but he knows Trump's an even bigger idiot and a pushover. He might try to placate Trump with false promises but anyone who thinks he'll stay out of Lebanon is dreaming.
iAMkenough2 hours ago
Guess $300 Billion from U.S. taxpayers wasn’t enough. #TheArtOfTheDeal
Cpollan hour ago
To be fair, none of that has been paid out yet.
cosmicgadget25 minutes ago
Didn't some of the gulf states provide reconstruction payments already?
sghiassyan hour ago
Art of the Deal sigh
indoorfishan hour ago
cut ties with israel at this point?
mooglyan hour ago
Aragchi was likely correct in saying the Israeli death cult is a threat to all of humanity at this point. This is untenable.
watwutan hour ago
It is closed! Open! Closed! Open! Closed!
We are negotiating! We dont! We do! We dont! We on the plane! We are not!
CSSer32 minutes ago
Everything is going to plan! Protect the precious bodily fluids.
2OEH8eoCRo09 minutes ago
So from now on every time Israel is attacked and responds the strait will be closed.
Masterstroke of diplomacy and military power. /s