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EvgeniyZh
Codex for open source openai.com

kelnos4 hours ago

Same as Anthropic's similar offer, they're only giving 6 months free. This really just feels like a way to get OSS maintainers hooked so they buy subscriptions after the free period is over.

If they were really serious about supporting OSS, they'd offer it for free perpetually (well, with periodic checks to ensure the maintainers are still affiliated with the project). Anything less just makes it look like a marketing stunt.

And also, dumb how Github-centric this is, same as Anthropic's signup form. Most of my OSS contributions aren't on Github. Guess that means the projects I've worked on don't matter.

ACCount37an hour ago

The bulk of open source development is (still?) on Github.

It's not like the Linux kernel isn't real. It's just that the kind of people who write Linux kernel patches and get them accepted are, in the eyes of an average open source developer, somewhere between "majestic magical creatures" and "madmen".

petesergeant3 hours ago

Presumably it's also sessions that they will absolutely use as training data?

breve10 minutes ago

What are AI companies doing to respect open source licenses and copyright?

I'm sure they train their models on open source software, so how do I know that LLM generated code doesn't reproduce substantial chunks of, for example, GPL licensed code? If indeed there are GPL violations, what are AI companies doing to police themselves?

I wonder if open source licenses will start to include "not to be used for LLM training" clauses.

fortuitous-frog14 hours ago

FYI this program is ~3 months old, and Anthropic has a similar Claude for Open Source program (see https://claude.com/contact-sales/claude-for-oss).

mickael-kerjean7 hours ago

I applied for my oss project Filestash which satisfy all their criterias but never heard back despite the project having millions of users, more than 14000 stars on github and representing more work than a single person can cope with

overfeed3 hours ago

I doubt considerations are based on need. Filestash is cool, but probably isn't the marquee marketing opportunity they are looking for; it jas to be a household name they can name-drop or place a logo on a marketing page and get instant street-cred "${AI_MODEL}: Used* by the React project in 95% of PRs closed last quarter"

huflungdung5 hours ago

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rmast9 hours ago

I applied for both. Heard back from neither. Mentioned two particular projects when applying, one with 2k stars and 5M monthly downloads, and another with 2M monthly downloads.

matheusmoreira6 hours ago

Now I'm wondering what the bar is since even people with millions of users aren't making the cut. I'm orders of magnitude smaller but I signed up too since I had nothing to lose. Didn't get a response, of course.

adrithmetiqaan hour ago

Is it possible this is vapour marketing and no projects are actually being selected? Perhaps someone from a project who has heard back can respond here?

zmmmmm13 hours ago

Seems rather stingy - 6 months is barely longer than you will get on a free signup deal for a lot of online products anyway. Kind of worse than nothing if it causes you to adopt work patterns that aren't sustainable for the project after the offer ends.

EduardoBautista11 hours ago

Which online product gives away 6 months of a $100 per month subscription?

mqusan hour ago

Jetbrains gives away for free infinity years of a $180+ per year subscription (its more expensive in the first year or for orgs)[1] for open source authors, students, and more. Sure, the per-month price tag is not as high but after year 4 you saved much more.

[1] https://www.jetbrains.com/store/?section=students&billing=ye...

Gigachadan hour ago

Though it doesn't cost them anything of note to provide this other than maybe some lost sales to devs who would have bought it.

HatchedLake72111 hours ago

Every 2nd SaaS with a startup plan? I used intercom/customer.io/segment/amplitude/mixpanel for free for a year.

pastel87396 hours ago

The marginal cost of all of those is definitely much lower than for Codex, though

olzhasar4 hours ago

An online product that was brought into existence by processing all the open source software in the world and makes money by selling the resulting knowledge base, should be accessible free of charge by the producers of that open source software.

zzyxy4 hours ago

Make it $200/month subscription which actually gives you access to O($1K) worth of codex compute. Even at the face value it is very generous, IMO.

runlevel19 hours ago

The price might be more commoditized if OpenAI kept true to the original mission that lives on, albeit vestigially, in their name.

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wodenokoto11 hours ago

6 email addresses gives you 6 one months trials …

tclancy10 hours ago

Where am I going to find [email protected]?

manquer9 hours ago

Using a plus sign is subaddressing [1] and most ESPs[2] will route to the main address ( [email protected]) . So you can use use [email protected], [email protected] and both will route the email to you.

In my experience most SaaS apps do not filter this out and allow re-sign ups with sub-addresses.

Gmail has an additional behavior that dot character is ignored in local component of the address . [email protected], [email protected] [email protected] all route to the same inbox as well.

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc5233 [2] Less common in work hosted ESPs but almost universally default enabled in public ESPs for consumers.

dhshhshsj5 hours ago

This is not true (anymore?). I have a rather unfortunate exact naming collision with a family member. They use the full name without dot for the local gmail component, I use a dot between the first and last name.

Two or three mails have been misplaced in a decade.

manquer5 hours ago

It is still the rules for Gmail (https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en).

It would be feasible to change something like that without breaking security now.

Google can hardly start allowing/routing a new account for [email protected] when you were getting it for years even though your account is [email protected] and sensitive communication like say from your bank would routed there.

Groxx10 hours ago

One can consult the oracle, /dev/random

maybe_pablo7 hours ago

icloud+ hide my email for $0.99

gruez8 hours ago

Since when did they have trials?

wodenokoto7 hours ago

I’m running on my 3rd codex trial and have had a month of Gemini Pro. I think Claude is the only one without trials.

Supermancho8 hours ago

you need a non-voip phone number for codex SMS now, as well.

testfrequency3 hours ago

This. I tried even tried signing up with my paid business line and it denied me due to VoIP.

throwitaway22211 hours ago

That's what I was thinking, but the downvoters are hunting today.

jiggawatts3 hours ago

They're doing everything possible to drive up their MAU before their IPO.

cush5 hours ago

No good deed goes unpunished

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vldszn13 hours ago

I applied for the first time a couple of months ago and again this month, but unfortunately I haven’t heard back from them :(

I’m building EasyInvoicePDF - a free and open-source invoice generator. (900+ GitHub stars, 2k monthly users on average, 10k total invoices downloaded)

https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf

ixtli11 hours ago

If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free.

georgemcbay8 hours ago

> If you only give 6mo then this is the opposite of a commitment to open source it’s a drug dealers tactic of giving the first taste for free.

Its arguably even more self-serving than the drug dealer tactic because of the feedback loop involved (if you use it to maintain your open source project, OpenAI will surely use that new code [along with all the existing code in your project] to train future models).

So it would be like if the drug dealer gave you the first taste for free and also the drug caused you to shit out more drugs and the drug dealer harvested your shit to sell to both future you plus other people.

KetoManx644 hours ago

Very vivid analogy that I'm never going to forget now.

altmanaltman6 hours ago

drug dealers should teach MBA classes at this point - so many strategies pioneered by them get used by large tech companies

TZubiri11 minutes ago

What a visionary Stallman was.

hmokiguess14 hours ago

What does this clause here mean and why would they include it? https://developers.openai.com/codex/codex-for-oss-terms#7-su...

Isn't the thing open source and governed by its own license?

arjie14 hours ago

That is interesting. I would have thought they had that right without needing to add it to the ToS.

gruez8 hours ago

It's better to have something in writing than to possibly have lawyers argue over it in court.

ilia-a14 hours ago

I did fill the form our a while back (it was around for a few months now) without any response. I guess must be really big OSS project for maintainer to qualify.

spooneybarger14 hours ago

Same. But I got one from Anthropic.

MeetingsBrowser14 hours ago

What project did you apply for?

ilia-a14 hours ago

PHP

jstummbillig14 hours ago

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arcanemachiner10 hours ago

If you harass the right person on Twitter, you could probably get that ball rolling a little faster.

colinsane13 hours ago

a huge aspect of open source is the user -> contributor -> maintainer pipeline. maybe they mean well, but in fact they're constructing a wall between those last two groups.

especially in larger projects where maintainership duties are heavily delegated, the last thing i want is some tool that can only be used by me, because suddenly i can no longer share the workload that tool targets with people who aren't "technically" maintainers.

2830428340923413 hours ago

6 whole months?! Gee golly thanks mister!

hnthrow1028291013 hours ago

Agreed. Seems like it should be indefinite given they created a multi billion dollar company off the backs of these maintainers dedicating their hard earned timed for free to begin with and then trained models against their code.

IMO this is an insult if anything

nish__9 hours ago

Especially considering they trained the damn thing on our code.

baq3 hours ago

Do you complain to the bank that credit cards have expiration dates or to the government that passports also do?

LtWorf3 hours ago

The bank mails me a new one automatically.

seu4 hours ago

Of course the solution to overusing AI is... to use more AI. Love it.

drw14 hours ago

Mycli (https://github.com/dbcli/mycli) is a happy recipient of sponsorship from this program. OpenAI asked for nothing in return; not even a link.

mrgoldenbrown12 hours ago

Are you saying they aren't getting training data from you?

drw11 hours ago

I'm sure they are getting training data! But it is hands-off otherwise.

tclancy13 hours ago

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2001zhaozhao14 hours ago

I think programs like this are cool, the company gets to promote their product and do good at the same time. This looks like a broader program than past ones and giving out GPT5.5 could be meaningful in improving open-source projects' security.

veni011 hours ago

I applied last months ago and again, but there not have any information, but Claude is very fast. I build the https://github.com/go-vgo/robotgo, https://github.com/go-ego/gse and others, 20k+

mkagenius11 hours ago

6 months a bummer, but we got it for apple sandbox - coderunner (https://github.com/instavm/coderunner)

We got it yesterday, maybe they just started rolling it out and hence op posted this.

jeena3 hours ago

I like that a project only qualifies if it's hosted on GitHub.

upghost13 hours ago

theprimagen called this[1] like three days ago. That was fast.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bT5v5Tm7w&t=164s

383629364811 hours ago

No, he didn't? He predicted that third parties would donate tokens to FOSS projects, not that the labs would. One is PR that started ages ago, the other is a reasonable prediction of where the world is going.

goodroot10 hours ago

Not quite donate tokens directly (technically and practically weird), but donation -> compute has been out for a couple months on opub.dev (disclaimer, built it). So his prediction was somewhat correct if not late!

jasonjmcghee13 hours ago

They’ve been doing this since at least March

vintagedave2 days ago

I wonder how well this supports niche languages. There's an indication there for stars or other signals of importance to 'the ecosystem'; that could match the Big Libraries but likely not ones for small languages.

monster_truck15 hours ago

How is this different from https://openai.com/form/codex-open-source-fund/ and are the winners listed anywhere? I've only ever seen devs say it isn't worth bothering, many of which I would've expected to be shoe ins for something like this.

vinhnx12 hours ago

The former has been refreshed and rebranded. The new form URL is https://openai.com/form/codex-for-oss/

cute_boi10 hours ago

and both of them generally don't work unless you have bought many github stars

winfredJa14 hours ago

my guess is they get high quality training data.

measurablefunc14 hours ago

This is correct. The most valuable form of data for any AI company is corrective feedback from real use cases.

emsignan hour ago

They are coming for the repositories now.

purpleidea8 hours ago

The difference between this one (good) and the Anthropic program (bad) is that openai doesn't force you into a marketing clause while Anthropic does.

I mean seriously, you already ripped off all the worlds open source code. Be more generous and don't demand anything else back. Six months is so little too.

vinhnx12 hours ago

Applied in March when it first launched for VT Code, a Rust-based terminal coding agent, but haven't heard back from OpenAI. The bar seems high, which makes sense given the fund's limited scope and requirements.

akoboldfryingan hour ago

The amount of gift-horse-mouth-looking in this thread is amazing to me.

How dare they only give me this much free stuff! I want that much free stuff!

tuananh10 hours ago

a very good way of collecting high quality training data.

i imagine the usage from maintainers of high quality projects are excellent training data. much better than average joe

holografix8 hours ago

Nice way of guaranteeing access to source code as training material and intelligence gathering

einpoklum3 hours ago

"Critical open source software" should not, and maybe cannot, be maintained with its development requiring huge commercial-corporate infrastructure in the form of OpenAI's LLMs.

It should be maintained by humans, relying on widely available hardware and software, requiring little of both.

Not saying that using LLMs as a convenience is forbidden or anything, but the direction is problematic.

(Also, this sounds like a cheap alternative to actually funding FOSS work.)

ev3lynx7278 hours ago

These grant programs feel inconsistent—sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing. Hard to tell where the balance really lies.

wseqyrku8 hours ago

When in doubt, go with marketing. There are things that are 'just marketing' you wouldn't believe.

akoboldfrying2 hours ago

> sometimes they genuinely help OSS, other times they look more like marketing

Whenever companies do things like this, it's both, or at least trying hard to be. To the extent that it's perceived by developers (that is, potential OpenAI customers) as helping OSS, it's effective marketing. This perception may or may not correspond to reality.

agentifysh6 hours ago

just applied

I've forked tensorzero after they archived the repo and will be updating and fixing issues going forward.

https://github.com/agentify-sh/gateway

this is my 2nd attempt

I am using my idle codex usage but would benefit from more inference

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fuddle7 hours ago

"6 months of ChatGPT Pro, which includes Codex" - come on, just make it free. Last time I checked OpenAI was worth $852 billion.

baq3 hours ago

This valuation is derived from the fact the three tokens aren’t free

sscaryterry15 hours ago

Hurdles, more hurdles.

outime12 hours ago

Codex for open source stored in GitHub*

dottchen12 hours ago

it's hard to trust them when there is little human support behind the scenes

goodroot10 hours ago

Trying to get https://opub.dev off the ground to solve this in a more open way.

If you have more than 100 stars, you can get $50 in starter credit.

Ideally organizations, more so than people, provide the bulk of future donations.

As for this program, ehh... Sceptical in general of any frontier program that ends at some time.

Once you're embedded, and all that...

realo14 hours ago

After what just happened to Anthropic, no way in hell will I ever use, support or give money to Kushner's OpenAI.

OutOfHere14 hours ago

That was Amazon's doing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48519092

Correction: only in part

wyrdcurt13 hours ago

The Axios article[1] I read says "calls from Amazon — as well as at least five other companies to a variety of senior administration officials Thursday evening and Friday morning — led to the model being shut down by Friday night".

Yes, Amazon is the only company named, but would anyone be surprised if OpenAI was one of the other five companies? It's hard to imagine a company that would materially benefit more from this event.

The evidence is circumstantial, of course, but can you blame people for making a connection?

[1] https://www.axios.com/2026/06/13/anthropic-amazon-white-hous...

htrp8 hours ago

Anyone know how much API credit openai offers?

idank5 hours ago

They give out the subscription by default, and if they find your use case interesting enough they'll give you credits. Not sure if there's an upper limit, but I would be surprised if it's more than a few hundred dollars a month.

(no internal knowledge, this is based on my experience with explainshell.com, thanks OAI!)

dartharva7 hours ago

On a side note, am I the only one who feels Codex models have a higher general first-pass success rate than Claude models on coding what you want? I use Github Copilot and always find myself drifting more towards them when working.

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ReptileMan14 hours ago

The moment a corporation starts to endorse open source is the moment they admit they know that are behind.

SweetSoftPillow14 hours ago

Anthropic published essentially the same offering recently. By your logic, does that mean they're behind too?

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