reverius426 hours ago
Presumably this is an issue for the commercial competitors too, but in light of the recent court ruling in United States v. Heppner that AI chatbots can break attorney-client privilege and/or work product doctrine, what kinds of things can this be safely used for? (I would assume you want to avoid sending anything with client-confidential information in it to a service provider like OpenAI or Anthropic.)
Potentially if used with a local LLM and not a service provider, this might protect attorney-client privilege?
victorbjorklund2 hours ago
It’s not different from googling. If a non-lawyer googles legal advice (”how to give yourself an alibi after murdering someone”) it will not be protected by attorney-client privilege. Same if you ask OpenAI.
llagerlof2 hours ago
This. I am telling this since the boom of generative AI and promptly being ignored.
alansaberan hour ago
You're right but lawyers are naturally looking for precedent to support this
mettamagean hour ago
Some people pay attention. I know I do. Thanks for mentioning it.
robertritz4 hours ago
United States v. Heppner mentioned a public chatbot service. If a law firm (or specialized provider) offered a chatbot using their own servers and hosted the traces and other data on the law firms own servers it would almost certainly be protected. But another case would need to happen to determine that.
But that only applies for clients using the chatbot. If a lawyer is using the LLM it is definitely protected. No different if a lawyer searches something on Google or Lexis Nexis. The search itself is protected. I guess you could debate metadata but the content surely is protected.
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debarshri4 hours ago
you can have dedicated deployment per customer per case, segregating it logically. I have seen this happen in larger law firms. It could be based on groups, teams, partners etc.
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kostarelo4 hours ago
For a moment I thought it was some open-source LLM trained on legal. It's not, it's a web app wrapping major LLM providers and streamlining legal workflows, uploading documents, and having the LLM providers interact with them.
Cool project regardless!
dahcryn2 hours ago
yeah I thought that was the USP of Legora and Harvey, so this is not the same thing at all, just surfing the brand recognition
alansaberan hour ago
Harvey made it a point to FT ChatGPT models for a year or so but they were struggling to keep up with the pace of new model deployments and quit. They never went as far as Cursor AFAIK which produced its own routers/"composer" models.
kernalix77 hours ago
Self-hostable legal AI as open source is a useful direction in principle. Hard to tell how mature the actual implementation is though, the repo is pretty fresh and the marketing site is doing a lot of heavy lifting compared to what's in the code right now. Will be more interesting to revisit in a few weeks.
0xbadcafebee5 hours ago
Rule of tech products: the nicer the splash page is, the worse the product is
superfrank4 hours ago
Apple would like a word...
trilogic2 hours ago
Why don´t you put a direct link that redirect users to some proprietary AI providers instead of making it look fancy. (If I ask whatever AI model will produce same outputs/forms, structured as you wish, and even locally). To qualify as some wrapper you need to add a layer of creativity by you on top of the existing ones.
oliwaryan hour ago
The name is really clever given that the character in Suits is called Mike Ross. :)
syntaxing8 hours ago
I always wondered if Justin Kan’s Atrium closed door prematurely by just 2-3 years. It would have been cool to see a “technology” driven law firm and how it would have adjusted to LLMs.
alansaberan hour ago
There are loads of them now. Great for trivial work. Not so great to highly templatise more complex matters.
sandreas7 hours ago
Cool project. What a pity it's not mikefoss.com, would match the soundex of Mike Ross from suits even better ;-)
ebipaul519421 minutes ago
Is it safe to share details with AI for case points what happened when data is breached. Victims name will be reviled right?
re_spond8 hours ago
Cool initiative. Is this fully separate from "legal Mike", the Dutch company that provides a similar solution, https://legalmike.ai/product/ ?
That may be confusing on the naming.
iot_devs5 hours ago
I thought it was named after the characters of Suits: Harvey and Mike
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campers6 hours ago
Interested to try it out! Some feedback on the homepage there's nothing above the fold, or directly below that says its a Legal AI platform. I would like a legal AI tool, but I'm not familiar with the space don't know what Harvey or Legora are. It was only the hackernews title "Mike: open-source legal AI" that gave the context.
wps8 hours ago
This website is actually gorgeous. What do you call this style?
NamlchakKhandro7 hours ago
It's called "We just discovered Claude Code and so we think Anthropic is Amazing so everything they do is godlike and thus their design choices must also be god like. Apple is Dead, Long Live Anthropic" style.
anon3738396 hours ago
Hm, I don't think this looks like Anthropic's design style. Anthropic is kind of doing a Chobanicore + Corporate Memphis design system that I personally find kind of creepy. But the website here just feels fresh and pleasant.
nipponese3 hours ago
I think you mean this
https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/tree/main/plugins/...
rvz5 hours ago
> Apple is Dead, Long Live Anthropic" style.
Except that the font that it is using is EB Garamond and Apple was heavily using the Garamond font in the mid-1980s to 2000s.
Given that almost everyone is copying both, it is now garbage.
anon3738398 hours ago
Agreed; that's a beautiful site. The main design style apart from minimalism that I notice is glassmorphism. Well, that and a very well chosen Monet to set the tone.
scosman8 hours ago
2 commits, 8 hours old....
georgespencer5 hours ago
OP's Github profile looks very fishy.
albertgoeswoof8 hours ago
And yet 130 stars
KingOfCoders3 hours ago
Not saying they did, but buying a 100 starts is cheap.
piker2 hours ago
The post exploded on LinkedIn and the repo is likely being starred by hundreds of vibe coders. It’s legit, but may have a lower signal value.
dalemhurley5 hours ago
Amazing work, 130 stars is quite high for a niche product within hours!
m4rkuskk7 hours ago
No way they got that many stars in that little time. buy.fans must run a special right now.
albertgoeswoof8 hours ago
How does this work with docx files? The screenshots only show pdfs?
timdim3 hours ago
LibreOffice for DOC/DOCX to PDF conversion
albertgoeswoof5 minutes ago
how does the agent edit the docx files then? or does it convert all docx to pdf, parse the PDF into context, make edits and then save it back to docx?
laywers live in docx not pdf
higginsniggins5 hours ago
Beautiful website.
kleiba24 hours ago
I'm so tired of having to sign up to some new service even just to try it out.
robertritz4 hours ago
So open up your new product to every random agent and griefer on the internet? Why would you do that?
kleiba23 hours ago
No, I mean just to try it out.
alansaberan hour ago
There are guest accounts, you know.
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