ninjaoxygen4 days ago
We use Barman inside Kubernetes via CloudNativePG's plugin, as it is the default backup plugin.
Barman has always been solid for backup and restore, however configuring backup in CNPG is a little more interesting - WAL limits need to be set carefully or you just end up filling WAL volumes and the database becoming unavailable.
subhobroto4 days ago
> We use Barman inside Kubernetes via CloudNativePG's plugin, as it is the default backup plugin.
right and here's why CloudNativePG chose Barman over pgBackRest: https://github.com/cloudnative-pg/cloudnative-pg/issues/3077
> WAL limits need to be set carefully or you just end up filling WAL volumes and the database becoming unavailable.
This is true. For anyone getting alarmed that this is due to a bug in PostgreSQL, it's not - it's PostgreSQL protecting the customer from attempting to write data that it cannot durable commit - "I am going to go unavailable because I don't have enough space to save more data".
There are multiple ways to handle this, the easiest, most hands on way is to keep a monitor and alert that watches the WAL size like a hawk and then alerts OPS the moment it breaches a threshold.
Tostino4 days ago
I thought that link was actually going to have a discussion on why they chose it. No such discussion exists.
gbartolini14 hours ago
Barman Cloud was a convenient choice for CloudNativePG (CNPG) because it was developed by the same team that created Barman originally (I am part of both teams). When we started CNPG, we never anticipated it would become so popular, which has obviously resulted in some technical debt. The issue you mentioned concerns our decision not to integrate pgBackRest into CNPG's core, as we aimed to develop a pluggable interface (CNPG-I).
As a community, we have decided to support volume snapshot backups and offer the Barman Cloud plugin to ensure we provide the same level of service. Our aim is to encourage other organisations or developers to create plugins for their preferred backup solutions.
Currently, as maintainers of CNPG, we must concentrate on the core capabilities and allow the ecosystem to grow with both community and, potentially, commercial solutions based on CNPG-I.
Tostino13 hours ago
I appreciate the response!
Completely understand your motivations considering the lineage, and I appreciate that you guys put in the effort for the backup plug-in system. I think you guys made the right choices for that project. I appreciate it much more than the Crunchy k8s project which didn't have open images.
I was definitely hoping that a pgbackrest plug-in would mature for cnpg, but I didn't realize there were troubles on the horizon for that project.
subhobroto4 days ago
The way I read that issue and the linked discussion was, that pgBackRest handles a lot of details itself that's otherwise handled by Kubernetes. Hence, a lot of functionality in pgBackRest is not only redundant but incompatible with how Kubernetes CSI could be used to provide incremental and differential backups. Hence, Barman and `barman-cloud` plugins are a better, natural fit for a Kubernetes environment than pgBackRest.
Synthetic73464 days ago
Can the plugin do non objectstore backups? E.g. If I don't want to use S3 / minio / whatever blobstore for my homelab
mkroman4 days ago
The plugin is specifically for handling backups via object storage.
CloudNativePG also implements support for volume snapshots: https://cloudnative-pg.io/docs/1.29/backup#backup-methods
subhobroto4 days ago
This is a fantastic project that a lot of self-hosters using PostgreSQL use. Specially with pgBackRest archived by the owner on Apr 27, 2026, this is likely the leading option that has been around the block for a while.
Anyone here had considered Barman in the past, used it for a while and went to pgBackRest? Are you revisiting that decision now?
hans_castorp4 days ago
A side note on pgBackRest: PGX created a fork and announced to maintain it under the name pgxbackup:
https://thebuild.com/blog/2026/05/01/pgxbackup-continuity-su...
zigzag3124 days ago
One interesting thing about Barman is that it just uses PG's own backup utilities. It doesn't implement custom parsers and things like that. So, there's less maintenance work needed for Barman when PostgreSQL changes data-file internals. Tradeoff is that there's less custom optimization than pgBackRest/pg_probackup/WAL-G-local.
Databasus seems to be taking somewhat similar approach to Barman, but (at this time) does not appear to use pg_receivewal, which makes it less efficient than Barman.
For PG v17+, Barman seems to be the most efficient backup solution based on PG native tools, that is able to do low-RPO or even zero-RPO (if configured as a synchronous receiver).
tee-es-gee4 days ago
It looks like pgBackRest will likely continue, multiple companies are stepping up with sponsorships. Mentioning this just in case anyone is making plans to move away, it's probably worth waiting a bit for things to settle.
levkk4 days ago
Last time I checked, Barman didn't support backups to S3. That's why (for us) pgBackRest was such a big deal: it could offload full and incremental backups to a basically limitless and reliable medium.
I think (and I'm probably wrong now) that Barman only could push backups to another Linux machine (e.g., EC2 box), so you had to worry about your backup system _on top_ of the main DB.
So I'm really hoping someone will pickup maintaining pgBackRest.
bakies4 days ago
Huh... Opposite experience. Barman cloud (s3 backups) is the only way I've ever used it. I didn't realize it wasn't the only way. Makes sense it could just use a filesystem.
https://docs.pgbarman.org/release/3.14.1/user_guide/barman_c...
hakube4 days ago
They have a plugin that supports backups to cloud storage
https://docs.pgbarman.org/release/3.12.0/user_guide/barman_c...
For CNPG: https://github.com/cloudnative-pg/plugin-barman-cloud
hephaes7us4 days ago
Something like Rclone and a cron job, or else s3 mounted via FUSE, could possibly bridge that. Of course then you have to worry about reliability of the bridge...
the_angry_angel4 days ago
There’s support via Barman cloud - we use it for azure at work but s3 and others are supported iirc
timacles4 days ago
Mounting S3 with Fuse is not stable or performant enough at scale for backup storage
hephaes7us4 days ago
I can understand why it'd be preferable to avoid such a bridge layer, and indeed I too would rather just have a transparent view of what's going on at the protocol level.
Stability and performance at scale sound like implementation specific properties though. If you've tried this, I'd be curious to known about the specific issues you encountered.
Eikon4 days ago
https://github.com/Barre/ZeroFS Should do a great job at this.
somewhatrandom94 days ago
There are other ways to mount S3, but you may want to check out Amazon's new product, S3 files: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2026/04/amazon-s3...
philippemnoel4 days ago
We (ParadeDB) use Barman via CloudNativePG for almost all our deployments. It's been solid, although I've had a few complaints about 1) inability to set S3 storage classes, 2) slow upload for very large databases.
Nonetheless, very happy to see this project on the front page of HN!
nodesocket4 days ago
A shout out to Databasus (https://databasus.com). It’s a remarkably simply utility and web interface to schedule PostgreSQL backups. I use it in my homelab and works great.
blazarquasar4 days ago
Its fine for HomeLab use, but its not really an alternative to something like barman. Quite heavy and vibe-coded.
rostislav_dugin3 days ago
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cpursley4 days ago
Upvote, this is working well for us.
vivzkestrel3 days ago
- how to use barman with aws RDS