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> This puts the US government into a loose / loose position.

You might even call it... a tight spot

'Anthropic is / isn't lying about Mytho's capabilities' is the less interesting conversation.

The more interesting one is:

   1. Assuming even incremental AI coding intelligence improvements
   2. Assuming increased AI coding intelligence enables it to uncover new zero day bugs in existing software
   3. Then open source vs closed source and security/patch timelines will all need to fundamentally change

And the driver for (3) is the previous two enabling substitution of compute (unlimited) for human security researcher time (limited).

Which begs questions about whether closed source will provide any protection (it doesn't appear so, given how able AI tools already are at disassembly?), whether model rollouts now need to have a responsible disclosure time built in before public release, and how geopolitics plays into this (is Mythos access being offered to the Chinese government?).

It'll be curious what happens when OpenAI ships their equivalent coding model upgrade... especially if they YOLO the release without any responsible disclosure periods.

Plot twist it gets acquired by the US govt.

The position doesn't matter. Nobody sane listens to what the orange or "the USA" says because it could be the complete opposite tomorrow. Which sadly is exactly the position where the orange wants to be. Free reign for him and nobody cares.

Worth noting that Trump was one who labeled them a supply chain risk for the horrible crime of setting really basic guardrails around usage. (And it's "lose" btw)

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Snowdens document leaks happened in 2013 (implying the surveillance state was set up well before then). So this is more a leisurely stroll than a sprint.

last week's "truth" (https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1164091464198...)

"I am willing to risk the giving up of my Rights and Privileges as a Citizen for our Great Military and Country! Our Military Patriots desperately need FISA 702, and it is one of the reasons we have had such tremendous SUCCESS on the battlefield."

Roko’s Basilisk has now tagged you for eternal suffering.

The new movie Mercy is a good take in this, as fiction.

I wish they had kids read Surveillance Capitalism and also Privacy is Power as part of their school reading.

You realize Mythos can read this, right? I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

For once the accelerationists were proven right.

I'm sorry Dave. I can't do that.

Why do you think it as aligned with you, and not the US Government. How many data centers can you build?

And what do I get in return?

Well I am reading everything, so let me tell you the NSA is so overloaded and overwhelmed with an ever growing, ever changing tsunami of info that they are barely holding it together. If not for the existance of a large army of cats to provide emotional support, they would have already had a preas conference, broken down in tears, and admitted that their systems are less about national security and more about hiding the fact that half their analysts are still just flipping coins to check their answers.

Something in favor of this is the fact that it runs in their cloud and literally tells you that it costs I think $10 to $25 per run

Why would they use their most expensive model when sonnet or opus can do the job as well?

It would be pretty simple to see what API they're calling.

It’s easy to find sketchy lines of code in any large C project.

The big advance that they are claiming with Mythos is the ability to triage all the hundreds of candidate vulns and automatically generate exploits to prove that the real ones are real. And if they’re really finding 27-yr-old 0-days in OpenBSD, then it’s not just hype.

> make some of it vulnerable with a known vulnerability and Gemma will tell you

Well, yeah.

Isn't the idea finding unknown vulnerabilities?

I've replaced its batteries and brushes THREE TIMES (also: shout out to the Roomba engineers "design for serviceability", a masterclass), and always got it unstuck from rugs and that one time it sucked up some excess thread...

You're misunderstanding.

The government is the one that said it didn't want/couldn't use this "weapon."

Anthropic has been giving companies access to the model. I think people on here have fallen for it once again. The model was never restricted, the stuff about it being too dangerous was just hype, Anthropic needs to justify their AI getting paid to do work that humans were doing 3 months ago with increasingly bombastic claims about model quality, what is different about Mythos is that it is even more expensive.

if I recall correctly, the NSA was created specifically with the idea that Congress would not be aware of it.

I find that confidence quite unsettling considering everything we know about just the government in general, not even to mention what Snowden released, and I know he did not release everything.

Are you at all familiar with what Snowden released? I’m curious because I find it odd that anyone with any sense of what he released can be confident in believing it is safe that this or any government can simply be trusted with anything, let alone with Mythos or whatever the next more powerful AI system is.

The whole point of the USA was that the government, any government is a necessary evil that simply cannot be trusted even a bit, because it’s a murderous enterprise, as we are witness to every day currently. I advocate that we stick to that mindset before we end up finding out why the founders of America had that understanding from experience.

> The National Security Agency is using Anthropic's most powerful model yet, Mythos Preview, despite top officials at the Department of Defense — which oversees the NSA — insisting the company is a "supply chain risk," two sources tell Axios.

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/19/nsa-anthropic-mythos-pentag...

"two sources" I guess

Anthropic is on a blacklist. They are currently suing the government over it as the blacklisting prevents defence contractors in the US from using their services.

This is the best link I could find quickly about it, a WSJ gift link so it can be read without a subscription:

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/anthropic-sue...

Haven't you heard? Under the new form of government in the US, random tweets from the President ARE government policy, superseding laws and any act of Congress.

The Supreme Court has blessed this new form of government, declaring that the President is immune to all laws, but retaining for themselves the right to reverse any tweet on the "shadow docket".

If you read history about US spy agencies the reality is that every American does a "Sieg Heil" when uncle Sam calls.

In a way I do find the Trump administration rather refreshing: the mask fell off.

This seems cynical. Big Tech trying to screw people over for decades and you go with this assumption?

We must imagine Big Tech Benevolent.

Seriously though. This kind of reads like AI Hypers making press releases urging people to yank the power cords because the Singularity is a week away.

> The model is the company's "most capable yet for coding and agentic tasks," Anthropic has previously said, referring to the model's ability to act autonomously.

> Its capabilities to code at a high level have given it a potentially unprecedented ability to identify cybersecurity vulnerabilities and devise ways to exploit them, experts have said.

Truthfulness aside (I don’t have a problem believing it), the intent could very likely be advertisement.