mmastrac4 hours ago
Can you (err... buildcache) cache Rust proc-macros? I've been battling this with sccache and I'm now maintaining a 10-patch deep stack for the next.js build CI.
Windows builds were ridiculously poor on cache hits rates too because of non-determinism that was not able to figure out.
I'd be happy to test it out.
estebank4 hours ago
There was an experimental PR that treats proc macros as idempotent with the corresponding colpike speed up. I don't know what happened with it, and stabilization required a lot of design work to not break backcompat. But this is something in the team's radar.
staticassertion3 hours ago
Would it be possible to do somethign like editions for proc macros, or have crates establish "this is a v2 proc macro" or something? There are a lot of things I'd love to see change in a v2 but it'd all be breaking.
estebank34 minutes ago
Yes, I think here are workable designs.
mmastrac3 hours ago
Do you have a link for this one? Would love to see it.
estebank10 minutes ago
This is not the one I remember but another one that does part of what I'm describing.
NooneAtAll32 hours ago
what do you mean by idempotent and colpike?
estebank14 minutes ago
Idempotent as in if the token stream in the input doesn't change, the cached result of the previous macro expansion is used during incremental, instead of being pessimistic and rerunning the macro.
Colpike as in compile typo.
evmar2 hours ago
I’m not too familiar with Firefox builds. Why are clobber builds common? At first glance it seems weird to add a cache around your build system vs fixing your build system.
jagged-chisel40 minutes ago
Define “fixing.” If you’re building on ephemeral containers, an external cache is necessary for files that don’t change.
allenrb4 hours ago
I guess “purge 17% of the code” is not the correct answer?
K0IN5 hours ago
wow, 17% is impressive with such an easy fix. i wonder if we could just build this as a separate project and pull the webidl files as a dependency.
rtpg42 minutes ago
managing deps as a separate project introduces a lot of day-to-day annoyances, especially if the files are actually changed decently often.
Devorlon6 hours ago
Why compile code when ccache faster
amelius5 hours ago
Does ccache fetch compiled code from a central server using checksums?
fishgoesblub3 hours ago
buildcache, the program the post is about can use a remote server for storing the cache.
01HNNWZ0MV43FF5 hours ago
sccache can, but most of us don't have access to an sccache instance: https://github.com/mozilla/sccache
mmastrac2 hours ago
sccache is pretty easy to set up and you can back it with S3, memcache, redis, etc.
shevy-java5 hours ago
So ... perhaps Mozilla should focus on user share dropping.
I understand that speed is relevant, but focusing on that strategy does not really work when dinosaur-like extinction is around the corner.
tadfisher4 hours ago
I will just say this: it is unfortunate that you have chosen not to engage with the content of the article.
jeffbee4 hours ago
Considering that Firefox mainly appeals to its own contributors, making the developer experience better would be important.
rebelwebmaster2 hours ago
Obviously it'll make the developer more efficient to spend more time twiddling his thumbs waiting for his code to compile rather than creating a simple build performance win that allows him to, you know, spend more time improving Firefox. Not to mention all the other developers who stand to benefit from faster builds.