hilux8 months ago
It was a Ponzi scheme. Interesting story, but Google turns up much better coverage than this article.
metabolian8 months ago
Can we say "search" instead of google, quit supporting a bloated incompetent monopoly.
hilux8 months ago
Well, I used Google, so that's what I wrote.
Coincidentally, I recently tested other search engines, from Bing to Yandex, and my results were not better.
ajdude8 months ago
Despite using Kagi as my search engine, I still use the term "Google" to refer to seeing generally. I think everyone else does too, and the result should really be Google becoming a genericized word.
Yiin8 months ago
google gives different results to different people based on tracking and their metrics, if you found a better source, please share the article itself
hilux8 months ago
I'm never sure how HN feels about links, but this is better, and includes a conversation with the programmer: https://restofworld.org/2021/farmbank-turkey-scam-jail-time/
mkl8 months ago
Yes, and this site seems really scummy. Wikipedia is pretty good on the guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Ayd%C4%B1n_(born_1991). BBC from 2018 has almost as much about the rest: https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-43430363
bgdkbtv8 months ago
We should have this punishment for politicians and govt scamming people out of billions, too, then. Make it fair on all sides.
karmakurtisaani8 months ago
It is. You're being polemic.
nancyp8 months ago
What about Roblux? It's a pay to win platform.
shiroiushi8 months ago
Hopefully he gets sentenced to the entire 89,000 years. Similar sentences should be the norm for other scammers too.
juunpp8 months ago
Let's widen the scope to adtech.
shiroiushi8 months ago
Adtech is annoying for sure, but it doesn't directly scam people out of their life savings the way scammers try to. Adtech just wants to advertise to you and sell you some crap you don't need (or some stuff you do, that's the entire promise of "targeted advertising": don't advertise PC building parts to someone who isn't building a PC, for instance, but only people who might be). There is a place for advertising in the world, as there has been for literally thousands of years (evidence for advertisements have been found in ancient cultures); the real debate is over the ethics of information-gathering, profile-building ("spying"), the general intrusiveness of modern web ads, etc. Modern adtech I think we can agree really needs to be better regulated, but they're not the same as scammers.
edm0nd8 months ago
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tzs8 months ago
That's in Turkey. When they say someone is facing N years in Turkey does it really mean they could be sentenced to that much?
Or is it like the US where you can be charged with C different crimes that all cover the same physical acts each with a maximum sentence of Y years and that gets report as you are facing C x Y years, even though for sentencing purposes those all count as the same crime so the max you get is Y years no matter how many of the C crimes you are convicted of (as long as it is at least one)?
mdotk8 months ago
Very old news. The website seems to be republishing stories
m3kw98 months ago
Maybe he will get to do all 89,000 years if AGI gets its way and extends life. A very bad time to get 89,000 years of prison time
aussieguy12348 months ago
Im assuming the life extension treatments, like all medical treatment, will be optional.
I doubt the state will want to fund those extra years in any case, it costs a lot of money to keep people in prison.
m3kw98 months ago
Laws can be weird, they may be legally required to have a person do the set years. But I think they likely re-sentence based on the new realities. Setting 89000 knowing he’d die in max 100 is different if they can do longer
userbinator8 months ago
If AGI gets its way, there will inevitably a bug in the system that makes him only serve 23,464 years.
D-Coder8 months ago
And without AGI, there will inevitably (be) a bug in the system that makes him serve only 32,767 years.
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juliangmp8 months ago
What the hell is that website? Literally half the screen is filled with ads and when I scroll down far enough I get to see a different version of the same article?
RecycledEle8 months ago
This is the kind of sentencing we need.
Every count of fraud needs to carry a separate time in confinement, and those times need to be added.
debo_8 months ago
This title reminds me of the old rude boy song "Judge 400 Years", in which a judge hands out multi-century prison terms. It's a great track: https://youtu.be/bX8USu78E7E
soared8 months ago
It is a really cool idea - shame it was a scam. I can’t think of anything else where the virtual world represents the real world in a similar way (or even the inverse). Pokémon go feels similar though.
transcriptase8 months ago
89,000 years for a scam.
Meanwhile in Canada you can have several dozen priors, be out on bail, commit a violent crime and be released on bail again immediately because you pinky promise to behave this time.
Then have the charges dropped after X months because the courts were too busy handing out probation and bail to other repeat offenders to actually try your case.
keepamovin8 months ago
what if we get the bitchun society in the next few years, and eventually everyone can live forever? if they actually sentence him to 1000s of years in prison, and he gets the upgrade, will they keep him in there?