rawgabbit9 months ago
Reminds me of magic mirrors of Japan and China.
https://www.cnn.com/style/article/magic-mirror-cincinnati-ar...
injidup9 months ago
Not to take away the brilliance of what is achieved but I think hologram is the wrong word. This is purely about caustics. Amplitude engineering rather than phase. The calculations are just assuming light as particle, not light as wave. A true hologram uses diffraction grating effects and the phase difference from light. There was a very nice explanation on three-blue-brown recently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmKQsSDlaa4
I don't think there are any phase effects in the parent attached? Or are there?
gpderetta9 months ago
Depends if we consider holograms only the specific technique of using phases to encode the information or any general technique that can encode 3D information on a 2D surface.
This solution relies on a physicals height map (in the author's word, a 2.5D surface), whether that counts as a 2D surface I don't know.
(and yes, I also saw the great explanation from 3blue1brown).
CyberDildonics9 months ago
any general technique that can encode 3D information on a 2D surface
This isn't 3D information on a 2D surface. If anything it is 2D information on a 3D surface.
gpderetta9 months ago
The video shows that it projects a 3D surface as if it was storing volumetric information.
CyberDildonics9 months ago
It isn't projecting a 3D surface (I'm not sure that even makes sense in this context) and it isn't storing volumetric information.
It is just using refraction to make brighter and darker areas in its shadow/caustics to make an image. The paper is 10 years old at this point and linked by this article.
https://rgl.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/media/papers/Papas...
https://nishitalab.org/user/egaku/tog14/yue-continuous-caust...
I think once you read the papers you will realize that the only thing 3D is the surface of the lens and that is only so it can get curves and angles for the refraction.
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mkmk9 months ago
Some nice comments on this previous discussion of the same link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28283411
dang9 months ago
Thanks! Macroexpanded:
Hiding Images in Plain Sight: The Physics of Magic Windows - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28283411 - Aug 2021 (24 comments)
Hiding Images in Plain Sight: The Physics of Magic Windows - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28220376 - Aug 2021 (1 comment)
shiko11pin9 months ago
Similar to "Pixel Window" link: https://x.com/Hakusi_Katei/status/1807591865132466324
isoprophlex9 months ago
Quite curious that the backside of the lens is modeled as a mesh of quads with varying (x, y). I could imagine that a fixed grid of points with only varying height would be easier to model, am I missing something crucial?
You can probably build an end-to-end model of a grid of heights (constrained to be h=0 at the edges), a simulated ray exiting the slab (surface normals modified by whatever Snell's law tells you), and the eventual light intensity on the target plane... and immediately optimize the entire thing with backprop?
I'm probably massively oversimplifying this and ignoring half of the physics
LarsDu889 months ago
That's so cool!
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